Fuck the Skins and fuck Portis! ;)

Hey, wait a minute... You're a Cincy Bengals fan.. :weird:

Lol I am NOT a Bengals fan. I just live here in God forsaken Cincinnati. I am from D.C. originally.

Oh, well fuck both of those teams!!!! Eagles pwn j00!!!!

Shut your nigger ass mouths.

And don't diss Cincy, either of you. We have the Bengals! The Reds! Fucking Awesome ribs, Graters ice cream (Oprah flies it in just so her fat ass can have it in chicago, it has to be good), SKYLINE CHILI (to anyone else who doesn't live here it is disgusting), a rivalry between the East side and the dirty West side, a exceptional importance placed on where you went to highschool, AND THE ZOO!!! (not the cincinnati Zoo, the ghetto in Over the Rhine :D) did I mention the Bengals!!??!?!?!

Sorry, I just love my city.

Oh and on a more on topic note, I don't think it is a loss of virginity.

The real question is, have you lost your virginity (as a chick) if you've been raped? I say definitely no, which depending on how you think, opens up the possibility of Jesus being an illegitmate child.

That is a question I have asked myself... you are not the one chosing to lose your purity, so you as the person are pure, but you had sex. I say you are not a virgin, but still have the quality of a virgin(in the pure sense)

Na I would not consider oral a form of sex but still it is a half decent solution for teens who cant get hold of condoms due to suspicion. I wana oral with this uber hot skater chick at my school but every time we try and get together she brings one of her fagg goth friends...GAY

Yes, you've lost your virginity, IMO, even if you are raped. Its not the purity, rather its the penis in her vagina aspect... The only thing controversial with rape, other than the obvious, is situations that involve abortion.

That's basically what I was implying, but Sov didn't quite grasp it. It's okay though, buddy.

I believe it is a form of sex, maybe not sexual intercourse, but anything that provides sexual pleasure is a form of sex. even masturbation. Anyone agree?

What about people that think they go to hell if they lose their virginity? S.O.L. or an exception?

How hard is it to get a condom go to a gas station with a quarter, and bam.

Heh, isnt it funny that the word sex is implyied in the title. If it wasnt it could be some other form of oral, in that case we all know that oral is sex.

Well, if they think they go to hell for having sex, I'm sure they don't have sex. As far as those people getting raped, I'm sure that would be an exception. They still would have lost their virginity, but it was just against their own will, so they probably get "redeemed" or what ever they want to call it...

If it involves another person and makes you jizz, it's sex. In fact I even consider (self) masturbation to be sex.

So you think hand jobs means loss of virginity?

Absolutely. Engaging in any form of sex constitutes a loss of sexual purity. The textbook definiton of "virginity" is "a state of purity" not "an unbroken hymen." To engage in any form of sexual contact with another human is to dissolve one's sexual purity.

I don't believe for a second that a girl that has had anal sex, has masturbated for her boyfriend with a cucumber, has engaged in fellatio upon a horse and has been shat on by a midget, but hasn't had sexual intercourse is still a virgin.

I don't say these things as some form of condescending finger-wavery. If you've engaged in sexual acts, you are no longer pure, therefore no longer a virgin.

If you've been raped, that's not the same thing. There was no lust or desire in the heart of the victim, therefore there is no loss of purity. A loss of purity is derived from the conscientious decision to engage in sexual acts with another human being.

So if a guy rubs a girls you know, then she lost her virginity I guess.... I dont agree, dont care what dictionary says... I mean ain't wasnt in the dictionary but now is, its up to the people to decide what a definition is.

It depends entirely upon what you deem "sexual acts". If anal sex is a "sexual act" to you, then it constitutes a loss of virginity. If rubbing up against a girl is a "sexual act" in your opinion, then it constitutes a loss of virginity. I don't consider two people dirty dancing in a nightclub a sexual act, therefore, there is no loss of virginity. My grandmother, however, would probably think differently.

The standard definition of "virginity" is a "state of purity". An individual person decides for themselves how to implement a definition, but individual people do not decide what the definiton of a word is. You can apply "state of purity" however you want. If you don't consider anal sex a "sexual act" then, in your opinion, there is no loss of virginity. However, if anal sex is sexual to you, the there is most certainly a loss of virginity.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. "Ain't" is a slang term that was recently added to the dictionary. It now has a set-in-stone definition. The term "virginity" already has a definiton. You can't just change the definition of the word to suit your personal needs. You can use the definiton however you wish, you can apply that definition in any way you see fit. But, you can't just say that the definiton of virginity is "hasn't had vaginal intercourse yet." The definiton of virginity is a "state of purity". If you consider a five-person gangbang with no vaginal penetration to not be a sexual act, then in your opinion, there is no loss of virginity. I, however, disagree with you, and would consider that to be a ridiculous opinion to have.

I used that to point out definitions are by the people... I mean I even put a .... to seperate it for you