Abusive wouldn't be the word I'd use, but it's long overdue.

We never heard that, we just were always told if you live a bad life, aren't honest and break the "10 commandments" then you can possibly go to hell...

Really? Long overdue huh? What do you just want to wipe out everybody with a faith in religion? Is religion a threat to you? People aren't in agreeance with you must be wrong, right? Even though science is so far along and only has skimmed the surface of anything in our existance, anybody who thinks otherwise must be wrong, correct?

Eh, One of my cousins told me that. I told him I was a buddhist. He went off on a tyrade on how I'm going to hell for not accepting the true god, etc etc.

Of course not, it is the phenomenon of religion itself that I would like to kill, not it's followers.

Dawkins was lucky enough to grow up in a secular household.

Even so, some do learn to think for themselves. And that's great. Doesn't mean that blind proselytization is a good thing.

Ahh. So religion acts as a substitute for good parenting?

I wish more people would think the way I do. I guess the people like me would be considered agnostic, somewhat. However, I still fully believe in God, I just don't agree with organized religion, for the most part. We can debate this forever and both sides would stick to their guns for the most part.

Read above post.

Read My Objection to Relgion.

Correct.

In most cases.

Meh, To be honest, If someone is following a Religion, and they can be shaken from that religion by the words of others, In my opinion, wasn't a true Follower of the Religion in question.

I think it's great that scientists want to establish our existance as proof and fact to as where it came from, however until that point peoople such as myself are still going to believe what they feel is correct, and what would make sense to them.


Some would argue that athiests follow this same aspect.


No, but it helps. I'd say that 8/10 Jesus kids that are thoroughly complacent in the church are going to grow up and be better citizens than the normal kid that isn't. When I was a kid, we were enrolled in this program called "CCD". It was every wednesday for an hour, and basically they would just read bible stories and talk about being positive in your life (maybe like 3rd-4th grade). I don't honestly see why a religion that preaches being positive and respecting one another, is a bad thing and should be destroyed.

Well, what do you expect? First it was "prove where humans came from." Then it became "prove where life came from." Then it became, "OH OH YOU PROVED IT *puts fingers in ears* NAHH NAHH NAHH NAHH NAHH CAN'T HERE YOU!" Now it's "prove where matter came from." Science is a never-ending endeavor. The place for God, however, keeps shrinking as science keeps expanding.

That word "blindly" that you bolded was they key-word in there. Going with the evidence is not the same as blind proselytizing. And learn the difference between discourse and proselytizing. There are two methods to handle differences -- through discourse, or through violence. Are you seriously complaining that we picked the former??

Actually, there is evidence to this, and it is to the contrary.

And you were a flaming bigot when you first came to this forum!

1.) Because there is no truth value.

2.) Very strong cases can be made that the Abrahamic religions preach no such thing.

Everyone on here displays a personality that isn't true to what they honestly believe.

Who I am on this forum is who I am in real life. I don't 'Fake' who I am on a forum because I see no point in it.

I wouldnt' really say people fake personalities, but more exaggerate them.

And I see no point to that, Why make friends on a forum if the person they think is their friend isn't really who he said he was. Meh.

No education on it, or evolution? :confused:

I think what D3V meant was that He is a bible thumper without any actual knowledge of the bible itself, or evolution.

Badda bing, just worded it oddly.