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Thanatos 2008-06-19 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vollstrecker (Post 641496)
I'm kinda speechless, I figured Homeland Security would have passed this before Sweden.

The Patriot Act?

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Originally Posted by jamer123
america hasent got that butwere i live the internet is slow with ie but with firfox it is faster

You make me lol.

WetWired 2008-06-19 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jamer123 (Post 641540)
were i live the internet is slow with ie but with firfox it is faster

You keep telling yourself that.

!King_Amazon! 2008-06-19 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thanatos (Post 641543)
The Patriot Act?

It's essentially the same thing, yeah. Although, I think the recent law in Sweden has a much harsher effect on the people living in Sweden than the Patriot Act has had on us. As Chruser said, businesses are leaving. Sweden is a small country, which means that it's a lot harder to just "hide in the crowd" of the traffic that's leaving the country. I also doubt that Sweden or its government has any desire to do this. I would guess that they've done this due to international pressure to deal with the piracy (from thepiratebay) happening in Sweden. Most likely it was our country, and most likely WE would be the ones sifting through the information being sent out of Sweden, rather than the Swedish government itself.

jamer123 2008-06-19 02:41 PM

that is true but in america we could miss it and go stait to the person thats going to bomb a place

Vollstrecker 2008-06-19 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jamer123 (Post 641554)
that is true but in america we could miss it and go stait to the person thats going to bomb a place

Did you just reply to the wrong thread or something?

jamer123 2008-06-19 03:55 PM

no i posted it in the right one wore

WetWired 2008-06-19 04:02 PM

Could you please try to more completely express your thoughts, then? Most of us can't figure out how what you say is related to what everyone else is saying.

Vollstrecker 2008-06-19 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WetWired (Post 641565)
Could you please try to more completely express your thoughts, then? Most of us can't figure out how what you say is related to what everyone else is saying.

Seconded.

I have no idea what you were replying to or how you were replying, Jamer.

!King_Amazon! 2008-06-19 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WetWired (Post 641565)
Most of us can't figure out what you say

Fixed.

I don't even know what he meant in his post.

WetWired 2008-06-19 05:47 PM

I think with better context it might have been understandable.

Vollstrecker 2008-06-19 06:43 PM

It feels more like a tangent running off with the whole "hate the government" thing, but I'm not 100% sure if he's in favor or against such actions.

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Originally Posted by Jamer123
no i posted it in the right one wore

For your english education:

"No, I posted in the correct one, whore."

Jamesadin 2008-06-19 07:11 PM

Chruser, come to Canada. Become a Canadian citizen and help vote out the Conservative government we have in power. I'm surprised they havn't been itching to introduce a bill like this.

!King_Amazon! 2008-06-19 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vollstrecker (Post 641580)
It feels more like a tangent running off with the whole "hate the government" thing, but I'm not 100% sure if he's in favor or against such actions.



For your english education:

"No, I posted in the correct one, whore."

Damn, you're good. I couldn't figure out what the hell he meant by "wore."

Willkillforfood 2008-06-19 07:43 PM

He is a translator.

WetWired 2008-06-19 10:32 PM

I thought it was pretty obvious, myself.

Vault Dweller 2008-06-20 01:18 AM

I figured it was something along those lines, but like I've said before, I don't necessarily want to play grammar nazi here. Were I to start, there would be no forseeable end.

Regarding Chruser's conundrum, might I recommend somewhere with sun, beaches, and breasts. I don't have anywhere in particular in mind, but those seem like viable qualifying factors.

KagomJack 2008-06-20 06:17 AM

This sounds fucking horrible dude. I pray you get out as soon as you possibly can!

Yawgmoth 2008-06-20 02:46 PM

As I live in Sweden, this affects me as well. Right now I am trying to decide whether I will move to Canada (I was thinking about Greece, but I want decided I'd rather communicate through English than Greek) or try to rally the people of Sweden and in some way annihilate the FRA. As a man who was semi-responsible for the worst country of the modern world once (almost) said: "He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither."

Vollstrecker 2008-06-20 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vault Dweller (Post 641598)
Regarding Chruser's conundrum, might I recommend somewhere with sun, beaches, and breasts. I don't have anywhere in particular in mind, but those seem like viable qualifying factors.

That's why I'm still in San Diego, despite how expensive it is to live here.

skeptiskt 2008-06-21 08:44 PM

When I first read about the FRA, I couldn't believe that most swedish politicians were going to vote in the affirmative. Probably I was too simple-minded, but Sweden really seem to be a country of double standards. Why cherish the freedom of speech, when every word we speak is stored in a taxpayed storage space to be re-examinated without reason?

Sure, this is no real newsflash. Sweden still has lists of political radicals, and wiretaps even if it's not legal. A lot of things can be put in the limitations of the freedom of speech - let's just make everyone a suspect!


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