That's not what flaming fingernails say.

Taking away the ability to choose and make our own decisions is worse than anything god ever did to mankind. Or Satan, depending on who you believe is more evil.

Prove to me this lesson, and a pupil of yours I will become.

The burden of proof is on you. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Nice spin. :grin:

If presented with evidence, you would claim the picture was edited, it was a trick, or (knowing you) that you've simply gone insane.

A truly open-minded individual will yield to empirical evidence if presented.

A baseless claim. If there actually was evidence, it would be well known.

Don't waste your time on god-fearing. At least pick something fun to worship, like invisible pink unicorns.

http://image62.webshots.com/62/2/39/...9bAaciG_ph.jpg

Damn. The Muslims beat you to it.

Lol.

I'm with Bill Maher in the "I don't know what to believe" category, personally.

Bill Maher is an apatheist. His statement would be "I don't care."

Can you prove this? No.

http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_s...ill-maher.html

Here's a direct pull from Religulous script where he ask's his mother what her beliefs are

Ms. Maher: "I don't know
the answer to that."

To which, Bill Responds:
"That's my answer."

So his answer is, I don't know. Sorry to show you wrong, but I just watched this movie for like the 5th time a couple nights ago and recalled this portion. He may actually be apatheist, but I've never heard that before.

http://richarddawkins.net/videos/932...aher-apatheist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Maher#Religion

"He declared himself an apatheist instead of an agnostic on Scarborough Country on April 24, 2007."

Before his movie came out.

"I don't know" and "I don't care" are not mutually exclusive ideas. Just because he said "I don't know" doesn't mean that "I don't care" doesn't apply equally or more. I've seen the movie multiple times myself, and I watch his show on HBO. "I don't know what to believe" sounds more like something an agnostic would say. If anything, Bill Maher would say "I don't know and I don't care."

Okay, I could agree to that.

But apatheists are ridiculous, they're even more lazy than calling themselves agnostic.

I don't see how calling yourself agnostic makes you lazy in the first place, but whatever.

Let's pretend a teacher hands you page worth of math problems and you have no idea how to figure it out. An agnostic would just be like, I don't know how to do it, and would put his head down. A religious extremist would rant and rave about how they have the answer, but only the teacher knows if they are right, and an apatheist, well they would just be like who cares about the test, why does anyone care about good grades?

In that scenario you are assuming that there is some absolute answer that can be found, and that we have the means to find it, but the agnostic person for some reason doesn't think the answer can be found, and the apatheist doesn't care enough to look for an answer. Which is pretty much apples to oranges in comparison to religion.

I don't see how, when asked an unanswerable question, saying "I don't know" is lazy. Maybe if you somehow equate "lazy" and "rational" in your head.

In other words, I'm not agnostic because I'm lazy, I'm agnostic because I'm rational.

Who the fuck cares about you, i'm talking about bill maher

I was using myself as an example to demonstrate that agnosticism does not imply laziness. You didn't even mention Bill Maher in the example I was responding to, moron.

wrong.