Well, it was out a year older...thats true. But that means XBox and Gamecube were in devlopment for a year more. So this means that XBox and Gamecube should have a LOT better graphics and stuff the way that the technology is advancing now. But guess what, they don't. PS2 is almost every bit as good graphics as either of thoes are considering it was released a year before!

I beg to differ on the graphics argument. Look at GTA3, Blood Omen 2 and Spider Man. GTA3 has HORRENDOUS graphics, Blood Omen 2 is one of the most graphically flawed games I have ever played, and Spider Man on the PS2 is easily the poorest looking of the three versions. And those are just a few examples. FFX's in game graphics look like hi-res N64 visuals, and there are countless other examples of the console's power inferiority to the XBox and Gamecube. Graphics mean very little in the grand scheme of a console's worth, but don't go making assumptions when you are visibly wrong.

Agreed. I think Gamecube and Xbox have obviously better graphics than PS2. Also, just because they were released a year later, doesn't mean they had a year more development time. They were likely started later. It does mean however, that they should have newer technology - which they Do.
And on topic, I just got a Cube yesterday. I'm so glad that Square and Nintendo are back together. Square single-handedly made the SNES awesome. FF2, FF3, Chrono Trigger, and Secret of Mana are *STILL* 4 of the best 10 console games of all time if you ask me. I would love ports of these on Gamecube. Also, games like these or sequels to these games... Breaking News!
I just got this from www.enix.com
Topic: Square Announces Secret of Mana 4 for GameCube!!! And it Supports 4 players!!!!!! (http://www.enix.com/b/Forum14/HTML/000432.html)

:) Make my day!

Raab, I'm pretty sure there was a Chronicles. It was 2,3,4 combined (I think).

FF Chronicles was FF4 and Chrono Trigger.

He's right. Saw it at Blockbuster recently.
Maybe FF5 or FF6 was in it also? I'm not sure on this, but it would sound a bit lame to just have one FF Game in a game called Final Fantasy Chronicles.

Anyhow, Secret of Mana 4 -- 4 Players! Hopefully it'll be more like Secret of Mana for SNES than Legend of Mana for PSX. That will pwnzor. Possibly it will because its a Nintendo system, and maybe they'll point out how Legend wasn't nearly as good as Secret.

Well, PSOne (I think, may be PS2) is getting the classic FF games ports. Also, the graphics for GTA3 arn't bad at all. I dunno what you were smoking at the time but they are perfectly fine. I mean, XBox's are better, gamecubes are a little better, but still, in dunno what they were doing in the dev. studio during that one year...

FF5 and FF6 were released in Final Fantasy Anthology. FF4 and Chrono Trigger were released in Final Fantasy Chronicles. I would recommend picking up both.

And, I agree with you, Bob, Secret of Mana was VASTLY superior to Legend of Mana.

Legend of Mana was whacked with the "plant seeds, grow towns and dungeons" system. I didn't like how you gained and dropped partners every couple of dungeons. And worst of all, the fighting suxxored. Secret of mana pwnzzored!
Also, you can't say that Gamecube and Xbox don't have awesome graphics. We saw with PS2 that many games didn't actually take advantage of the newer technology until quite some time after release. Wait till the next wave.. or possible the one after that.. of games for Xbox and Gamecube hit the market, and then we can discuss who has better graphics. Cube and Box will improve, but PS2 has already hit its limit, unless you crack it open and put in a new vid card. *Raises eyebrows* ?
Anyhow, NO FAIR! PS2 shouldn't get ports of FF games that were originally on a NINTENDO system. Gamecube.... from.... NINTENDO should get them! Bah! Bah!
Oh well... I guess I'm stuck to playing them on SNES and Emulatorz.

I liked the art style and animations in Legend of Mana. All the different options were really cool too (forging your own wepaons and armor, instruments, raising monsters, building golems). But, the fact that the ENTIRE GAME was just a series of mini-quests really disappointed me. And I'm willing to bet that if Square wants to make any more money off the already existsing FF series, they'll probably port some or all of it to the Gamecube or GBA. I mean, so far they've ported FF7 through 9 to PC, so why not sell it to Nintendo fans too?

Have ya'll seen the new SaGa game graphics..? They're considered cel-shaded, but their hand-drawn and look really sweet....

Bah you could say that about the GC too all the games that launched with it was remakes of the games released on 64
(GC library=Mario, Mario, and umm luigi plus more Mario ahhh!)
But I think the ps2 hasn't done bad at all on it's selection of games that it has produced..
Socom it is online so what it is a completely new idea to consoles a NAVY seals sim plus the offline game single player mode is some of the most innovative gameplay I have played forever
Kingdom Hearts can't get much more original in the RPG genre
Onimusha was a new Idea
Red Faction New
and many more

the truth is that the consoles (none of them) don't like to take risks so none of them really like to invest in innovative Ideas

My opinion on the console war is why care the more competition on the market means I pay less in the end...
plus I have owned all 3 consoles and I prefer ps2 personally but the other two are still worth the purchase....

FF crystal chronicles might be the game to get me to buy a GC (again) hopefully it will lower it prices soon...