How exactly do you guzzle a pill?

same way yo momma guzzled my cum lol ghlrooaarrkdkazsgh

If you knew serious drug addicts, you'd know.

I'm living in the middle of mormonville USA, I doubt there is such a thing here. Then again, there could be.

Maybe if they just popped 'em constantly, that could count as "guzzling"...

Definately for. The mother should always have this option - cause not just the baby's future is at stake. Plus, there's plenty more eggs to make another one later. I know if I was not absolutely sure about my future, I wouldn't want to bring a baby into an uncertain family.

Besides, I think this arguement is stupid. If the mother wants an abortion, okay. If she doesn't, that's okay too.

The mother had the option of not getting pregnant in the first place, unless she was raped. The baby never had a choice, at all. There's always adoption if the baby's future looks absolutely horrible, but in almost every case, life will be better than death for a baby.

Ok, so it would be alright if I killed you, since your mother could just have another baby, right? That's a pretty fucking stupid argument, try again.

Well, if you were unsure about your future, you should not have gotten pregnant, but there are always accidents. In those cases, there's adoption. Like I stated before, most of the time life would be better than death for the baby.

That's your opinion. I find it kind of ironic that you say the argument is stupid and then you come right out and state your opinion.

I have to agree with KA on those points, Dubby.

1: That's her choice.

2: No that would not be right. Time, and age are a huge factor. Duh. You're talking like everyone is equal, no matter what their age, origin, race, heritage, or otherwise. While idealistic, that sure as heck isn't true about the real world. People, animals, lifeforms, are dying and being born constantly. Abortion is not a big deal. Hey if a person wants to commit genetic suicide by never having kids, that is *their* choice, not mine, and not yours or anyone else's. If they want to adopt, that's their choice too. The exact same thing goes for abortion as well. Of course if *YOU'RE* having the kid, and its *YOUR* baby, then by GOD yes you have a right to make the decision. Maybe you should be more concerned about things like poaching, or fur farms, or over harvesting of fish and animals then a whether a human fetus lives or dies. Are you going to go as far as to say its murder when a woman has her period and passes the egg? Or when a guy jacks off? The whole debate is so amazingly self centered. It's *their* choice dammit. I am most CERTAINLY not saying never pay attention to EVERYTHING, ANYONE does, so don't you dare try and bring this there.

Yes, it's their baby and their body, but it's not their life that they are ending by aborting the fetus. As for your ovulation/masturbation argument, please read my post on the previous page.

Genes are in every lifeform on this planet, intelligence is not. I weigh the "moral" value of an organism in its current ntelligence, not its genetics.

I have more to say than what I'm going to post here on that comment, but newborn babies, by that standard, should have no value to their parents whatsoever, certainly less value than a monkey or a dog.

Anyways, I need to shop for christmas gifts. Be back to post more in a few.

Wow, I'm almost stunned by the rather narrow minded stance most of you are taking on this issue. My bottom line is nobody should have any impact on the decision except the actual parents, so no legislature should disallow the option.

I have to say I'm a little disappointed in you guys.

That is also my bottom line. That is their (or her if there is no partner) decision, and only theirs. Not mine, not yours, not the governments or the doctors, or anyone elses'.

When it comes to life or death, I'll admit, I'm rather narrow-minded.

Is there some life experience you had that leads you to feel that way about it? Not asking condescendingly, I am just genuinely curious.

There have been certain instances with uncles and aunts, however, I don't think they are a major factor in my stance.

Whether or not I'm for legally prohibiting abortion, I'm not sure. Like I said, if my girlfriend were to get pregnant, I'm not sure how I'd feel about the situation. I am, however, from a moral standpoint against it.

Pregnancy scares are downright frightening. All rational thinking is blown out the window for a time.

I can't imagine what a kid on the way is like when your life isn't in order.

Against.

So it should be alright to kill retarded people then, right?

Out of curiosity, would you be in favor of praciticing eugenics?

That's what happens in nature. Eugenics is just a fancy word for human evolution. We're however smart enough to make evolution happen a whole lot faster then nature would normally. Ontop of that, we may also find ways to avoid negative eugenics all together by snipping out the bad parts of people's DNA.

That may be true, but you did not answer my question.

"yes"

yeah....umm yeah....

To say over half of the posters here seem to be in favour of Abortion, I doubt you'll find many who agree with "snipping out the bad parts of people's DNA".

I do believe it's illegal in Britain, but not in America - 'tailor-made' babies. You have your eggs screened for certain signs that indicate whether the child will be male or female. And if you want a female child, one of the relevant eggs is used, ditto for if you want a male child. That's the main thing they do... but some clinics also offer the option, for an exorbitant amount of money, to have your eggs screened for signs of genetic diseases. Should an egg show a sign of a genetic disease, then they either destroy the egg or cut out the bad DNA (I don't know enough of the process to say for sure).

Thinking about it, I've probably just described, in basic terms, eugenics... but, still, I think it's wrong. A lot of people think it's wrong, in fact. And then they associate it with things like stem cell research, simply because both play around with gametes and embryos. In essence, bad feelings towards eugenics is giving stem cell research a bad name. A totally uncalled for bad name.

It also conveys the feeling that people with disabilities, or with genetic diseases, are inferior to other people - hence the trying to remove the chance of people being born into society with disabilities or genetic diseases. Don't forget that a sizeable chunk of the world was put through a more crude version of this by Hitler. It doesn't matter that it was over 60 years ago. A lot of people just think of the Holocaust, but Hitler also had people with disabilities and genetic diseases rounded up and murdered, simply because he didn't want them in his "perfect society".

I think that I'm just doomsaying here, so I'll just stop.

It may be an American attitude to things that means a lot of you might agree with abortion, or eugenics, but to me both are wrong. I'm in no way religious, but I do have some morals. How both can be thought of as justified is completely beyond me.

Whether a baby is male or female is determined by the sperm, not the egg.

And choosing the gender of your baby doesn't have much to do with DNA if I remember right, they just separate the sperm into "likely" groups of female and male. It isn't even 100% right, just a try at it. I think it's 96% correct. Then again I was looking into this stuff about a year ago, it could have changed since then.

Me and Nikki are planning on having that done if we can afford it in any way. We've both pretty much agreed that little boys are a bit too crazy. Not that we wont be happy with one if we get one.

Hitler was stupid. Mass murder isn't the answer, it NEVER is (well, unless its like, a bad disease, or a plague of killer bees, or something like that. Then? OKAY.). Forced adoption and controlled breeding is much, much, much better.

I vote against.

"I believe", fate has everything to do with every situation. How many times have you had unprotected sex, or close calls with you/or your partner being late on a period and sweating that out? lol Only takes that one time!! My situation, I am a single father and we used protection, but it still happened, unplanned...yes, unloved? Never!

It's a personal belief, but on the other hand "God" (if you believe) has given us free will, therefore, no matter who deems it to be right or wrong, it's personal.

For me, it's just wrong. Adoption > Abortion