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!King_Amazon! 2003-09-26 07:41 PM

It's obvious Seymour would win. Just close this shit and move on.

Kuja 2003-09-26 07:45 PM

Here we go another that beleive magic come out of a uzi.

!King_Amazon! 2003-09-26 07:47 PM

I don't believe whatever you are talking about, I just believe Seymour would kick Seifer's ass, simple as that. This thread is getting to long for me to even want to read it, so it should just be closed.

Kuja`s #1 2003-09-26 08:08 PM

You continuously say that I'm stating as though Seymour can cast non-stop magic. I'm gonna say it one more time READ THE WHOLE FUCK'N POST!!!

I say plenty of times that Seifer would use multiple attacks before Seymour could attack. He is a fucking puppet. Ultamecia says when Elione takes Squall back in time to the time where Ultamecia posseses Rinoa, "Only then shall I restore you with dreams" or some shit like that. He's nothing more than a slave to Ultamecia.

Seymour's Cura is very strong. Not able to restore all his HP but enough to restore 1/2-1/3 of what Seifer was able to do.

I'm writting one more battle scenarion in the hope that SOMEONE will read all of it.

Seifer-Fira
[Seifer-Slash
Seymour-Lance of Atrophy
Seifer-slash
Mortibody-Shattering Claw
Seifer-Firega
Seifer-Haste
Seymour-Blizzarga
Seifer-slash
Seymour-Cura
Mortibody-Desperado
Seifer-Thundera
Seifer-Meteor
Seymour-Shell
Seifer-slash
Mortibody-Cura
Seifer-Dispel
Seymour-Dispel
Seifer-Firega
Mortibody-Cura
Seymour-Flare
Seifer-slash
Seifer-slash
Seymour-ULTIMA
Seifer-Cura
Mortibody-Desperado
Seifer-slash
seifer-Tornado Slash
Seymour-nothing
Mortibody-Cura
Mortiorchis-Ready to anihilliate
Seifer-slash
Seifer-Cura
Seymour+Mortiorchis-Total Anihillation!
Mortibody-Cura
Seifer-No Mercy
Seifer-Haste
Seifer-Fira
Seymour-Flare

It should be over by now. Seifer's magic def is low. Constant Curing would definately be needed in this battle. Seifer would attack alot as I have pointed out before. That would be an RPG battle. Here's a real battle.

Seifer ran towards Seymour. Slashed several times. Dodged Mortibody. Casts Firega.

Seymour waits. Observes Seifer. Casts Thunderga. Mortibody uses Desperado.

Seifer dodges some Desperado but not all the energy blasts. Uses Haste. Runs and slashes Seymour several times.

Seymour and Mortibody uses Cura.

Seifer slashes.

Mortibody hits him and makes a deep cut on his stomach. Seymour uses Dispel

Seifer-Fira. Cura on himself. Runs around looking for an opening.

Seymour keeps tabs on him with the Mortibody. Mortibody chases him around so he's in front of Seymour. Seymour uses Lance of Atrophy.

Seifer-Meteor. Bloodfest. Retreats to plan another attack.

Seymour watches him. Plans a move and orders the Mortibody to use Desperado. Why Seifer jumps around, Casts Flare.


It could go on for hours. I'm done though. If kuja posts a reply, I'll reply but I'm done for now.

Kuja 2003-09-26 08:26 PM

Then why dont you just not come back.

Let s take a look at your USEFULL post so far.

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
Well, there's not really much you can argue against what Kuja said, and he's correct, Seymour would kick Seifer's ass. I really don't feel the need to repeat what Kuja said, so I'll just agree with him and let it be.

You mean you couldnt come up whit nothing ? Come on really im sure your not THAT dumb are you ?

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
It has been more than 24 hours.

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
It's obvious Seymour would win. Just close this shit and move on.

OMG ! Now thats what i call contributing to a thread.

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
You say seifer is good because he beat Odin. Odin is a pansy compared to some aeons, including Anima.

No reason or argument ?
Arnt they the base of Zelaron Melee ?

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
Odin could only 1 hit kill normal monsters, he could lance bosses but that's it.

What an inaccurate statement Odin just decide when he fight he want the party to show him honor by fighting at important event he can 1 shot anything just like i explained in a earlier post.



And for you kuja's #1.

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Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
You continuously say that I'm stating as though Seymour can cast non-stop magic. I'm gonna say it one more time READ THE WHOLE FUCK'N POST!!!

Lol take a peice of your own advice.
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Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
Seifer would probably use his Limit now. Or maybe some magic. Unfortuanately, Seymour could use Multi-Blizzara. That would stun him for a sec. Allowing Seymour to cast Flare.


Kuja`s #1 2003-09-26 08:33 PM

WTF is with enlarging that shit?

Magic doesn't come out of an Uzi. Its more like a Pump. Its causes a whole lot of pain it just isn't rapidly fired out there. Except for Multi-LV. 2 Magic of course.

Kuja 2003-09-26 08:44 PM

Maybe cause you said :
it would stun him a sec giving seymour time for flare ?
Right ... I always knew he could recast right away .... and that flare was a 1 sec cast ! Be realistic.

Else i could say lot of unrealistic crap like :
Hey did you know seifer been puting nuclearbomb in his gunblade for higher dmg ?

Kuja`s #1 2003-09-26 08:50 PM

What's your prob? Flare is about 2.5 seconds fast. I'm just simplifying it dumb ass. What would you say? "It stunned him for two seconds." I doubt it. Your posts aren't even worth anything anymore. I have proven every arguement of your's wrong. Well except Anima. But besides that all you're posts were saying the exact opposite. I actually think your lowering Seifer's chances. Your strategy is "run and slash" My strategy is "Mortibody keeps him from getting to close. Cast magic and then use Ultimate Attacks" Its over.

Kuja 2003-09-26 09:03 PM

You think he can just go on and on casting like some whore in a rampage ? ever seen time bar fill up ? Maybe it s cause of the time he gota wait(recovery). Seifer being much faster give him way big advantage.

And lowering his chance ? I gave my reason why he would win and then you started saying some weirdo point and so i felt just prooving you wrong on your point is enought. Even if i would give step by step battle it doesnt matter. I said why and my reason.

ask_rabber 2003-09-26 09:04 PM

Don't know if I'm hallucinating, but I believe you said that Seymour has a long "warm up" so to speak. If Seifer is stunned, would he not be back in the game by the time it's Seymours next attack? If that's the case, he could ge this limit break off and do some serious damage. I've never played FF10 or whatever, but I'm gonna have to agree with Kuja and say that Seifer was a badass. He was arrogant, but he could back that shit up.

Kuja`s #1 2003-09-26 09:15 PM

If you never played FFX please STFU.

For god's sake, Kuja. I've stated time after time again. that Seifer would have a high attack rate. I keep stating and restating it. Apparently your brain can't accept it or something.

You keep saying he's fast and that he can attack INFINATELY! I'm sick of it! Seymour is quite fast himself. On occasion he could indeed attack Seifer like that. Its rare, but you'll see it in every battle. Even the slower monsters or whatever can use two attacks in a row.

I could give a two-hundred+ post on why both of them could win. Personally I think your posts are an insult. Slash, Slash, Dodge, Limit Break. That's it! All you keep saying is that I underestimate Seifer. I DON'T! You have no more arguements. It's done. Give it up and wait for the Kuja battle.

ask_rabber 2003-09-26 09:19 PM

Let's not make this personal kid, just simmer down. If you're gonna whine about me stating the fact that I don't have anything against Seymour, besides his name is a little faggish, you definitely need to take a chill pill.

Kuja`s #1 2003-09-26 09:22 PM

I AM CALM!!

No just kidding. If you're gonna judge Seymour by his name, you'd better get out because you don't know shit.

Seymour can use the most powerful magic in the game, has great physical strength, and his intelligence far surpasses that of Seifer.

ask_rabber 2003-09-26 09:26 PM

Yeah, you obviously cannot read. I just said, I have nothing against Seymour besides his name. I don't know anything about him, therefore I cannot judge him. Because you can't comprehend what was written, you need to get to school because you don't know shit.

Kuja`s #1 2003-09-26 09:39 PM

FU!

I would say something else, but I believe I have stated all the facts. Seymour is just too strong and moderately fast for Seifer's medium strength attacks and high spped.

I feel obligated to make a short battle.

Seifer would use slash. Haste. Slash, slash.

Seymour would use Dispel.

Seifer would use Fira.

Mortibody would use Desperado.

Seifer would use slash.

Seymour would use Firega.

Seifer would use Meteor. Perhaps another slash. Then Firega.

Seymour would use Lance of Atrophy.

Mortibody would use Cura.

Seifer would use Haste. Then he would use Cura. Then he would use Thundera. Then he would use slash.

Seymour would use Multi-Watera.

Seifer would use slash.

Mortibody would use Shattering CLaw.

Seifer would use Firega. He would use slash. Then slash.

Mortibody Cura


Seymour would use Dispel.

Seifer would use Thundera. Then Firega.

Mortibody would use Desperado.

Seifer would use slash.

Seymour would use Flare.

Seifer would use a Limit Break. Then Cura.

Seymour would use Cura and so would the Mortibody.

Seifer would use slash. Then Meteor. Then Slash.

Mortibody would use Shattering Claw.

Seymour would use Lance of Atrophy. Then Multi-Fira.

Seifer would use Haste. Then slash. Then slash. Then Fira.

Mortibody would use Cura.

Seymour would cast Ultima.

It could go on for hours. Seymour's speed and magic are a lethal combination. He could never match the speed of Seifer. But his defenses are just to powerful for Seifer to cause anything trully powerful and potentially lethal.

Kuja 2003-09-26 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
If you never played FFX please STFU.

I think any 1 has the right to participate in any battle.
It s not cause they didnt play the game that they dont know nothing about them + gamefaqs.com give lot about most char in zelaron melee.

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Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
You keep saying he's fast and that he can attack INFINATELY! I'm sick of it! Seymour is quite fast himself. On occasion he could indeed attack Seifer like that. Its rare, but you'll see it in every battle. Even the slower monsters or whatever can use two attacks in a row.

I actualy tell you how your statement are wrong.
And what you did ?
You said wrong statement about Seifer.
You said similar stuff in just diff order about attack.
How is that not repeating ?

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Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
Slash, Slash, Dodge, Limit Break. That's it!

Lol he a freaking melee and what about Seymour ??

Spell, Spell, Spell, Spell ?
Thats it ?

Take 1 of those *chill pill* and start thinking about it.

Melee ARE MELEE.
Fill the blank.

1. Melee fight in _____ combat !
2. Caster fight by _______ !

Well in case you cant fill the blank here the awnser

1. Melee
2. Casting

Kuja`s #1 2003-09-26 09:51 PM

You keep saying the same shit. That spells are nothing compared to speed and physical strength. I'd take a slow character with Firega, Firega to a fast character with slash, slash. There is just no comparison.

Seifer would lose. Give it up. Seriously! All you can come up with is he would dodge everything and Seymour would cast one spell every fifth turn or some shit. The fact of the matter is that Seymour's magics are two powerful and would kill Seifer before he could get such attacks as Bloodfest.

Seymour=Magic spells that are devistating and potentially lethal.

Seifer=many attacks but with lower damage.

It be like scratch, scratch actually. So let's configure scratch, scratch and superscratch against, Firega, Flare and Ultima.

Kuja 2003-09-26 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
You keep saying the same shit.

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Originally Posted by Kuja
You said similar stuff in just diff order about attack.
How is that not repeating ?

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Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
I'd take a slow character with Firega, Firega to a fast character with slash, slash. There is just no comparison.

Thats cause you dont know how to correctly use a melee.

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Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
Seifer would lose. Give it up. Seriously! All you can come up with is he would dodge everything and Seymour would cast one spell every fifth turn or some shit.

What i said is he could dodge i never said everything and seifer could do 1 3/4~ attack per Seymour turn whitout haste so whit haste about 3 1/2. so every time seymour attack twice Seifer would do 7 Attack unlike Squall is weapon is easy to move arround.
Dispell ? Lol Seifer can cast haste back and do 1 attack ~ before Seymour get another chance to do something.


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Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
Seymour=Magic spells that are devistating and potentially lethal.

Seifer=many attacks but with lower damage.

Devastating is putting lot doing 2-3 time more dmg isnt DEVASTATING ! mostly if his attack take much more time.
I actualy like how you said MANY attack whit LOWER damage.
Thats how it is ! LOWER DAMAGE NOT PUNY DAMAGE !!!

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Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
It be like scratch, scratch actually. So let's configure scratch, scratch and superscratch against, Firega, Flare and Ultima.

Toothpick scratch not weapon.

Kuja`s #1 2003-09-26 10:26 PM

Quoting endlessly is annoying.

So it takes time. If three or six of his attacks could kill Seifer where as Seifer would need six to twelve attacks to kill Seymour. His defenses are too high and Seifer's strength is only medium Thus, it is reduced to a pitiful, even laughable strike.

Cerridwen 2003-09-26 10:28 PM

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Was he looking for Seifer for something?! I was quite puzzled when he said those things to Seifer.

Odin the King of the Instant Death Move must have been pretty pissed off at pretty boy Almasy to charge him like that, and Gilgamesh appears, to finish what Odin had begun but forgot to finish.

And yes, Gilgamesh's Zantetsuken move was performed by using Odin's sword. Were they sort of comrades or something?

As for Seymour VS Seifer, Seymour wins, hands down. If you just take away Aura and other of those cheap spells in FFVIII Seymour would squash him flat like a pancake.

And Seymour's WAY cool. Seifer would be just be defeated because he's a hotheaded bastard; Seymour is cold, calculating to a T! No way that snobby brat could defeat HIM~~~!!!


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