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Demosthenes 2004-10-05 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinto Katana
Ha, once again you lack knowing ANYTHING. There are professional people that work into this. First of all there was no commercial paid program for it. It was broadcasted over TV, history channel. Second, you say find your names, date of birth and shit. Okay, give me your name, and all the information. I will look for it through the bible. Thirdly, did you not see the "pictures" of the fact behind the logic of the mathematics used or the science behind it? Clearly one such as yourself doesn't overlook anything important, but rather just types in a simple word such as: Bible Codes, and then finds millions of advertising sites. Here, let me link you to a real site that proves it right: http://www.probe.org/docs/bib-code.html This may boggle your petty pub brain, for a tad little bit.

Sure, let me leave zelaron, and go and conduct myself in suicidal actives as I once was doing--maybe not. Here�s what I�ll suggest, take four instinct fingers--hold them up straight--rapidly finger your vagina, because Im pretty sure anything, and I mean anything relating to a male(including a phallus) isn't conjuring in this realm.

For kicks, I will give you all the information you need. My name is Jamal Knight, and I was born on March 1st 1991. You find the rest of the shit, and you get 150.

There was no commercial paid program for it, The History Channel just randomly decided to advertise a 150-dollar gadget which "makes prophecies?" As for your logic, and all this other bullshit you're talking about, let me give you the facts. Bible Codes are a hoax. Apparently, Drosnin discovered current events such as Yitzhak Rabin's assassination, Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9's collision with Jupiter, and the end of the world coming in the year 2000. Only problem is, we're not dead. Oh, wait, I forgot, it's not 2000. Bullshit. The Bill and Monica scandals, Bush's fucked up election in 2000, and the world trade center were all postdictions. If you had done a little research yourself, you might have found this out. Also, using these "bible codes" Brndan McKay located nine political assassinations in Moby Dick, War and Piece, and plenty other books. Whole lot of truth there. Right.

I pity anyone who holds such a steadfast belief to anything this far-fetched. Good luck in life, buddy. Oh, just for the record, those so-called "insults" at the end of that post were an ignominy to yourself. Seriously. Come up with better shit than that.

Shining Knights 2004-10-05 07:55 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Demosthenes 2004-10-05 08:05 PM

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IM not even gonna read it, of course no one is going to be giving you the "real" program, but there are other programs around the "Mathematics" around it. Sure, it cant be correct all the time, do you know why? Because they're having trouble telling the future. That’s why if we DID know the future 100%, we'd all know our destiny, and we don’t. Most stuff is 100% true, others didn't happen--messed up. They didn't "predict" the fucking bush, and trade center, and all that other crap. They found it AFTER it happen. Again, you're just rambling on. The past, they can find, but the future is what they cant figure out 100%. The Moby Dick thing is a joke. Sure it could happen, that they "found" the assassinations, but the lettering weren't all near each other, and prob didn't give out any death dates, and anything. Also, tell me this: How could a "human" encode the bible to the extent to have hidden messages, such early on in the world? You can believe what you want. But for the people that actually believe in God, this is just more prove. Did you actually read also that there was a billion to one chance, or even greater for them to find anything when using the code? Was it fate, or not? We'll see.

Right. A "code" that is only correct so much. Okay. I'm rambling on? Where? On the part where I just proved how false this was? We fucking figured out amazing things back when humans didn't have much technology. You think we couldn't pick out a simple pattern? You can't make up proof to offer someone.

Also, isn't this the same kid who was so fucking suicidal a while back? Left Zelaron, seeked professional help, and thought about committing suicide because his awful teenage life (which matters so much in the future) sucked? But then *gasps, he found the love of Christ. Bullshit, man. You expect me to buy into something said by someone as fickle as you; especially something this far-fetched?

And as for Moby Dick:

Grav 2004-10-05 08:09 PM

I decided to read on these "codes" which are nothing more than bullshit acts of coincidence and the probability that eventually you'll get what you're looking for in a huge amount of text.

Shining Knights 2004-10-05 08:14 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Shining Knights 2004-10-05 08:15 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Grav 2004-10-05 08:17 PM

Because it was done after the event and they looked for it...!?!??!?!?!?!

Shining Knights 2004-10-05 08:19 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Demosthenes 2004-10-05 08:21 PM

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Actually, I wasn't suicidal, bring up a thread where I said I wanted to kill myself and I was going to. I just left because I needed to have some time to myself. I didn't seek help at all. Also, imagine this, the odds are great to find the messages in books, I agree, it could happen, but to find every outline of the WHOLE world, and names of people, and everything in a single book. With the dates(btw, the first picture, I don’t see where the "oct 31, 1984" comes into play, I don’t see any real dates(numbers) there). The odds are great for them to have a book that does give you the assassinations, and shit, but come on. Words will overlap. The 2ed picture is to big, the bible codes are VERY close together and never really far apart.

Have you seen them? And to find every outline in the whole world? If you mean every event in the whole world by that, that's a lie. Lets just say, hypothetically, that the bible has a trillion different characters in it. Now, lets assume that there are a trillion ^ trillion ^ trillion different combinations in it, an overshot by far. You know what that gives you? A finite number. At any given instant of time, there are an infinite number of things going on, thus the bible can't do what you claim it to do. Also, wasn't the bible written by the hand of man, according to christianity? You mean a human coded out all this? Hasn't the bible been translated over and over in the past 2004 years? Like Grav said, coincidence. McKay proved it in Moby Dick. That was a small example of the stuff that was found. There was more found in "War and Peace" and plenty of other books. Oh, and Moby Dick had quite a say about Drosnin.

Grav 2004-10-05 08:22 PM

Why does that fucking amaze you so much? I'm sure "Grav's huge dick" comes up only once in the Bible too. WHAT IS TO EXPLAIN? YOU ARE BEING IRRATIONAL AND ACTING BRAINWASHED.

Demosthenes 2004-10-05 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
Why does that fucking amaze you so much? I'm sure "Grav's huge dick" comes up only once in the Bible too. WHAT IS TO EXPLAIN? YOU ARE BEING IRRATIONAL AND ACTING BRAINWASHED.

Brainwashed may be an understatement, Grav.

Slim 2004-10-05 08:24 PM

Shinto, if you take enough time you can translate anything into meaning whatever the hell you want it to. They didn't crack any fucking code, what they did was come up with random shit, until they found a way to make it say the shit they wanted.

For example: I could say "o;sdijn,ms" is a coded version of "I am the son of god", but it's a new code that no one but me knows. Would you believe me? Of fucking course not. Don't be so gullible.

Grav 2004-10-05 08:25 PM

If there is one kind of person I absolutely cannot stand, it is religious zealots.

Demosthenes 2004-10-05 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
If there is one kind of person I absolutely cannot stand, it is religious zealots.

That, and feminazis.

Shining Knights 2004-10-05 08:27 PM

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Demosthenes 2004-10-05 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinto Katana
It was writen by his disciples through God himself. He told them what to write.

God told me I'm Black Jeezus. Yes, it's spelled "Jeezus." I am his one true son.

Slim 2004-10-05 08:28 PM

Oh, so they were writing things down told to them by THE VOICES IN THEIR FUCKING HEADS!

Grav 2004-10-05 08:28 PM

I also told them what to write. I am 3500 years old, Shinto. I can prove it because I have a spiritual connection with God. Don't you believe me?

Demosthenes 2004-10-05 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinto Katana
Actually, I wasn't suicidal, bring up a thread where I said I wanted to kill myself and I was going to.

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'm back. I think. I dunno. I..whoa. I feel so good.

http://loveregardless.com/suicide.html

I read that, and cried. I thought about it... And I said. Why NOT! WHY NOT GIVE LIFE A CHANCE. Why Not? Whats so hard? I have 60-70 more years to live. And if its thats bad, I'll die at the end. But I lost sight of the meaning of life. I forgot about giving life a chance. I forgot about that. I forgot that I need to give life a chance. And that, no matter how hard life is, there is a good bump right around the corner. Its so amazing, I feel so good.

To everyone, GIVE LIFE A CHANCE!

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread....dal#post350904

Slim 2004-10-05 08:45 PM

Ohmages (9:33:14 PM): Do you believe in god?
Slim1882006 (9:33:19 PM): fuck no
Ohmages (9:33:40 PM): Do you find anything interesting or eddgy to believe in god with the "bible codes"
Slim1882006 (9:34:13 PM): not at all
Slim1882006 (9:39:16 PM): in fact, it's complete bullshit
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