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D3V 2009-04-29 06:37 AM

Anyways. I heard on NPR this morning there are countries not wanting to call it the swine flu now (because of religion).. What's the take on that? Funny?

Chruser 2009-04-29 07:31 AM

Yeah, that's a good point. Let's refer to it as Influenza A virus subtype H1N1 from now on.

Sum Yung Guy 2009-04-29 07:37 AM

I want an Influenza A virus subtype H1N1 toasted wheat bread sandwich with swiss cheese, lettuce, tomato, mustard and mayo.

Skurai 2009-04-29 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by D3V (Post 670700)
Anyways. I heard on NPR this morning there are countries not wanting to call it the swine flu now (because of religion).. What's the take on that? Funny?

Beautiful.

1. It's the Hooves that make them against the religion.

2. It came from pigs... If God exists, he intended it to come from pigs. Calm your happy ass down, it's the swine flu.

D3V 2009-04-29 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 670730)
Beautiful.

1. It's the Hooves that make them against the religion.

2. It came from pigs... If God exists, he intended it to come from pigs. Calm your happy ass down, it's the swine flu.

I can't understand that. How come if it's the hooves they don't hate horses, goats, donkeys etc? Anything else with hooves. Even fucking reindeer have hooves.

But I agree, they can STFU and GTFO with their bullshit rhetoric.

Skurai 2009-04-29 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by D3V (Post 670731)
I can't understand that. How come if it's the hooves they don't hate horses, goats, donkeys etc? Anything else with hooves. Even fucking reindeer have hooves.

But I agree, they can STFU and GTFO with their bullshit rhetoric.

It's a specific Kind of Hoove.
And they don't hate the animal, just respect them. I assume they feel the name disrespectful, or they're just dumb.

Also, can't eat anything fromt he ocean without gills or finns.

Sometimes I just think God is being silly with us.:rolleyes:

Willkillforfood 2009-04-29 02:23 PM

The pandemic alert has been upgraded to level 5. This shows that a pandemic is imminent. The virus is quickly mutating, and although in Mexico it's kill rate isn't in the double digits, it is highly unstable and could become like the Avian Influenza from Asia. That influenza had around a 50% kill rate, from figures I just saw. This isn't much to be joking about. This is one of the largest threats to humanity in a while. It's out of the bag.

D3V 2009-04-29 02:33 PM

You think it's still really serious? After you take the meds and your body fights it off once you'll be cured for life from the specific strain. Like you say though, it's pretty rough that it keeps mutating though. I wouldn't be too worried, especially living in such a warm climate where it's hard for the Flu to hang around for a while.

Quote:

WHO raises influenza epidemic level from 4 to 5

"Actions now should be taken with increased urgency," director-general says

World Health Organizations reports 132 cases in 11 countries

U.S. government working on vaccine, homeland security chief says

Chruser 2009-04-29 03:06 PM

The A/H1N1 subtype also caused the Spanish flu, which "killed killed some 50 million to 100 million people worldwide over about a year in 1918 and 1919."[1]. Not to be an alarmist or anything, but FUCK, WE'RE ALL DEAD!

Actually, since only one person has died outside Mexico so far, it may not even be as bad as more common strains of influenza.

As the CDC website states:

"Each flu season is unique, but it is estimated that, on average, approximately 5% to 20% of U.S. residents get the flu, and more than 200,000 persons are hospitalized for flu-related complications each year. About 36,000 Americans die on average per year from the complications of flu."[2]

Sum Yung Guy 2009-04-29 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chruser (Post 670748)
"Each flu season is unique, but it is estimated that, on average, approximately 5% to 20% of U.S. residents get the flu, and more than 200,000 persons are hospitalized for flu-related complications each year. About 36,000 Americans die on average per year from the complications of flu."[2]

What about Swedes?

D3V 2009-04-29 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sum Yung Guy (Post 670749)
What about Swedes?

They don't eat processed foods; therefourth, they cannot be harmed by illnesses. They live forever.

D3V 2009-04-29 03:21 PM

Yeah, but like you mentioned this strain so far has not been as powerful as the spanish flu. Even with that said, the transferred from 'mexico' recent swine flu has not resulted in any deaths either.

Chruser 2009-04-29 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sum Yung Guy (Post 670749)
What about Swedes?

Between 2000 and 4500 Swedes die every from Influenza-related complications, which means that the Influenza mortality rate is approximately three times higher here than in the United States.

D3V 2009-04-29 03:26 PM

How long before all of the paranoid conspirators come out from their holes?

!King_Amazon! 2009-04-29 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chruser (Post 670748)
The A/H1N1 subtype also caused the Spanish flu, which "killed killed some 50 million to 100 million people worldwide over about a year in 1918 and 1919."[1]. Not to be an alarmist or anything, but FUCK, WE'RE ALL DEAD!

That same Spanish Flu would probably hardly be a bother these days. In 1918 and 1919 our medical technology was pretty limited compared to today.

Skurai 2009-04-29 04:19 PM

Some coutry (somewhere middle east) Has started Killing all the pigs.

Willkillforfood 2009-04-29 07:49 PM

Well, 36,000/300,000,000=very small percentage. If even one out of a hundred infected dies, it's more severe than the normal one it seems. Mexico has had 160 deaths out of 2,498 proven sick with it. That's right over 6.4%. Granted, I doubt it'll have that sort of kill rate in the U.S. But in 3rd world nations I'd suspect it could be fairly consistant. I would suspect at least 3 billion people live in the third world. 6.4% x 3 billion = 192 million people. That's only if 6.4% of less than half the world's population were to die. Seeing as there's probably tons of undiagnosed cases, this scenario may be a bit too extreme. But it may not be too, as more may die. We'll see.

The vaccines are going to take many months to develop by the way, and this pandemic would probably already have ran its course through Mexico and the U.S. by then, i suspect. Any damage that's going to be done very well might be done by then.

Skurai 2009-04-29 10:22 PM

Then again, this thing is Mutating faster then the X-men, right?

Willkillforfood 2009-04-30 06:29 AM

This just in: The Swine Flu can now control the weather and conjure tornadoes. We're fucked.

D3V 2009-04-30 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Willkillforfood (Post 670777)
Well, 36,000/300,000,000=very small percentage. If even one out of a hundred infected dies, it's more severe than the normal one it seems. Mexico has had 160 deaths out of 2,498 proven sick with it. That's right over 6.4%. Granted, I doubt it'll have that sort of kill rate in the U.S. But in 3rd world nations I'd suspect it could be fairly consistant. I would suspect at least 3 billion people live in the third world. 6.4% x 3 billion = 192 million people. That's only if 6.4% of less than half the world's population were to die. Seeing as there's probably tons of undiagnosed cases, this scenario may be a bit too extreme. But it may not be too, as more may die. We'll see.

The vaccines are going to take many months to develop by the way, and this pandemic would probably already have ran its course through Mexico and the U.S. by then, i suspect. Any damage that's going to be done very well might be done by then.

I was talking last night with some of the family about the swine flu, and we were talking about it. Basically agree with everything you're saying. I was suggesting that if Africa were to be hit pretty severly, or even China/Japan, a higher congestive area that may not have as good rapid response as our country might have, there could be serious conditions and possibly kill more people. But I doubt it will.


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