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!King_Amazon! 2011-01-27 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 693061)
Well, a few thousand years of incest will likely make people look different (different "races" per-say), and the Tower of Babel could have easily separated people by looks. Thus, races were created.

Also, I believe there was a man in the bible who had four children, all a different color, all from the same mother.

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 693027)
"if you accept these absurd things to be true then no rational argument will persuade you anyway so whatever."

Words

D3V 2011-01-27 02:44 PM

Do you read Harry Potter and litearlly intrepret it as fact Skurai?

Skurai 2011-01-27 02:56 PM

No, it takes place in a modern day. Why?

!King_Amazon! 2011-01-27 03:26 PM

Oh, also, if you believe the Bible to be literal fact, you believe the constant Pi=3 rather than 3.14159...

http://www.abarim-publications.com/B...The_Bible.html

gg

Hell, while we are at it, http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/errors.htm

Skurai 2011-02-02 11:58 AM

Y u mad, sceptic?

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-02 12:04 PM

It's spelled "skeptic"

D3V 2011-02-02 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 693072)
No, it takes place in a modern day. Why?

illogical!

Skurai 2011-02-02 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by D3V (Post 693120)
illogical!

Buses, trains, postal service, museums, foster care.
U mad?

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-02 02:36 PM

I wish all of my arguments with creationists ended in them giving up the argument and repeating "u mad" over and over again. It would be a lot less frustrating to walk away from the debate.

Skurai 2011-02-02 03:53 PM

I wish all my arguements ended in the other guy being a faggot about it.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-02 06:42 PM

You really suck at trolling.

Oh and:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 693116)
Y u mad, sceptic?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 693121)
Buses, trains, postal service, museums, foster care.
U mad?

What being a faggot might look like

Wed-G 2011-02-02 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V (Post 693024)
What genealogy could you find to trace Adam throughout time to I suppose, Jesus that isn't credited to some geocities type-website from a religious fundamentalist author?.

1. God
2. Adam
3. Seth
4. Enosh
5. Cainain
6. Mahalalel
7. Jared
8. Enoch
9. Methuselah
10. Lamech
11. Noah
12. Shem
13. Arphaxad
14. Cainan
15. Shelah
16. Eber
17. Peleg
18. Reu
19. Serug
20. Nahor
21. Terah
22. Abraham
23. Isaac
24. Jacob
25. Judah
26. Pharez
27. Hezron
28. Ram
29. Amminadab
30. Nahshon
31. Salmon
32. Boaz
33. Obed
34. Jesse
35. David
36. Nathan
37. Mattatha
38. Menna
39. Melea
40. Eliakim
41. Jonam
42. Joseph
43. Judah
44. Simeon
45. Levi
46. Matthat
47. Jorim
48. Eliezer
49. Joshua
50. Er
51. Elmadam
52. Cosam
53. Addi
54. Melchi
55. Neri
56. Shealtiel
57. Zerubbabel
58. Rhesa
59. Joanan
60. Joda
61. Josech
62. Semein
63. Mattathias
64. Mahath
65. Naggai
66. Hesli
67. Nahum
68. Amos
69. Mattathias
70. Joseph
71. Jannai
72. Melchi
73. Levi
74. Matthat
75. Heli
76. Mary & Joseph
77. Jesus

EDIT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...38&version=NIV

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-03 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wed-G (Post 693127)
1. God
2. Adam
3. Seth
4. Enosh
5. Cainain
6. Mahalalel
7. Jared
8. Enoch
9. Methuselah
10. Lamech
11. Noah
12. Shem
13. Arphaxad
14. Cainan
15. Shelah
16. Eber
17. Peleg
18. Reu
19. Serug
20. Nahor
21. Terah
22. Abraham
23. Isaac
24. Jacob
25. Judah
26. Pharez
27. Hezron
28. Ram
29. Amminadab
30. Nahshon
31. Salmon
32. Boaz
33. Obed
34. Jesse
35. David
36. Nathan
37. Mattatha
38. Menna
39. Melea
40. Eliakim
41. Jonam
42. Joseph
43. Judah
44. Simeon
45. Levi
46. Matthat
47. Jorim
48. Eliezer
49. Joshua
50. Er
51. Elmadam
52. Cosam
53. Addi
54. Melchi
55. Neri
56. Shealtiel
57. Zerubbabel
58. Rhesa
59. Joanan
60. Joda
61. Josech
62. Semein
63. Mattathias
64. Mahath
65. Naggai
66. Hesli
67. Nahum
68. Amos
69. Mattathias
70. Joseph
71. Jannai
72. Melchi
73. Levi
74. Matthat
75. Heli
76. Mary & Joseph
77. Jesus

EDIT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...38&version=NIV

http://theframeproblem.files.wordpre...-the-cycle.jpg

And even if we assume that the Bible is correct, it is highly contradictory. In fact, here is a list of 456 specific things that the Bible contradicts itself on. The only "facts" used are passages straight from the Bible which you can check for yourself.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

D3V 2011-02-03 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3v
that isn't credited to some geocities type-website from a religious fundamentalist author?.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wedge
1. God
2. Adam
3. Seth
4. Enosh
5. Cainain
6. Mahalalel
7. Jared
8. Enoch
9. Methuselah

.....
Quote:

Originally Posted by D3v
that isn't credited to some geocities type-website from a religious fundamentalist author?


Wed-G 2011-02-03 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V1
that isn't credited to some geocities type-website from a religious fundamentalist author?


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...38&version=NIV

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-03 03:36 PM

That website is using the Bible as its source. The Bible was written by religious fundamentalists. So was that website. My hair is a bird, your argument is invalid.

Wed-G 2011-02-03 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 693136)
That website is using the Bible as its source. The Bible was written by religious fundamentalists. So was that website. My hair is a bird, your argument is invalid.

However, I found a source, thatisn't credited to some geocities type-website from a religious fundamentalist author. Point in case, it's from the Bible. Regardless of whether or not it's true, the Bible does give that genealogy.

And your "hair is a bird" argument is equivalent to South Parks "screw you guys, I'm going home." It's real mature, in a serious debate.

I honestly don't care whether I'm right or wrong. You can spend all the time in the world arguing against or for any sort of deity, it doesn't matter. But regardless, it seems that you're impassioned, or "wholly" devout, almost fanatically to the subject of a supreme being that you don't even believe exists. My neighbor could be a serial killer. But I've seen no evidence to support that claim, so I don't go to every single person I meet and fervently preach that he isn't. You could say the same to me, except opposite. But the only reason I even responded to this waste of human thought and reasoning is because you all jumped on Skurai, claiming his conservative opinions weren't his own and then trying to sway his opinions with your own. I'm sick of the pointless debate over God. God's neither provable or disputable. So why can't we just say, I believe, you do not and let it be the last we ever talk about God? Or religion. Or faith in any form. Not even a passing mention of anything remotely related to faith. Oh wait. Because we all have certain freedoms. Like freedom of speech, religion, right to assemble and petition the government.

So, I'm gonna exercise my right to believe what I want. If you don't believe, that's up to you. I'll let your choices and actions define my opinion of you, not whether or not you believe the same as me.

If you're right, great. Congratulations. We die and rot. There is no afterlife, no god. No reward or punishment.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-03 07:10 PM

I cannot be right. I am not taking a side, so by definition I am not correct. I am of the opinion that nobody can know the truth, and I respect your right to believe what you want. My problem is when people cannot simply say "I don't believe it because it is scientific/factual evidence, I believe it because I believe it and its as simple as that." I particularly have a problem with people who attempt to rationalize how what they believe might be true rather than simply admitting that what they believe has no proof but they believe it anyway. This doesn't necessarily apply to you, but you did kinda take a retard approach to the debate and didn't give much else other than your "facts" in your argument, so I could only judge based on those. Here's a better example of what I'm referring to:

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetWired (Post 693008)
Aging is related to telomeres. It's entirely possible that in the distant past they were longer or better preserved. As for the age of the Earth, if God created Adam as a man (rather than an infant), why is it a stretch to assume that God also created the Earth with age? Alternately, the creation story is a poem shown to be full of alternate meaning; perhaps it is better to take it not-so-literally. Even so, I believe that Adam was the first man and the geneology is accurate. You find it hard to believe that a God capable of creating both time and space is capable of sustaining a single man's life for 3 days in a fish?

See, instead of simply saying "I believe it because the Bible says so" he attempted to find "scientific" rationalizations for the belief. I can respect someone who is willing to say "I realize that science and the Bible conflict, and I choose to believe the Bible." I cannot respect someone who is going to try to say that there's no disparity between science and the Bible , when there clearly is.

As I've already stated in this thread, science and the Bible conflict severely. The Bible even conflicts with itself. I can still respect someone if they believe the Bible as long as they are willing to admit the two previous sentences in this paragraph are correct, because they are inarguably correct. Simple as that. I'm not saying "the Bible is wrong," I'm saying "there's no proof that the Bible is right." For all I know the Bible is entirely true (minus the conflicts it has with itself, as those breakdowns cannot be resolved within the boundaries of logic.)

And really, it's nothing personal.

D3V 2011-02-04 09:10 AM

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

This is a great website; Hebrews 7:3
"Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God," was Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wedge
There is no afterlife, no god. No reward or punishment.

Why do the religious types use such a harsh guilt system. They make it seem that if you don't go to church and preach their beliefs, then you're a bad person. That's what most non-knowing believe, we feel that people shouldn't be made to feel guilty over having a different opinion. That's at least why I fight so vehemently

Skurai 2011-02-05 11:13 AM

You fail to see that contradictions in a story are a problem. Contradictions in real life are constant. If I asked, "Who was the president of the United States", there would be 43 contradicting answers - all of them correct.


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