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Lenny 2011-02-05 11:21 AM

Err... no.

If you contradict something, you deny the truth of it and instead preach the opposite to the statement as gospel.

If I say "George Washington" and you say "Abe Lincoln", we're not contradicting each other - both answers are correct, as both are truth.

If you say "Contradiction is someone giving a correct answer to a question and someone then giving another correct answer" and I say "Contradiction is denying the truth of a statement", then that is contradiction.

Get it?

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-05 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny (Post 693151)
Get it?

Don't hold your breath.

Slim 2011-02-06 01:06 AM

For the first time in awhile, we have an interesting thread. My two cents will be up soon.

Wed-G 2011-02-11 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Slim (Post 693155)
For the first time in awhile, we have an interesting thread. My two cents will be up soon.

I have an interesting share that I feel goes well with this blog. Oddly enough, it refutes any of my beliefs I have stated thus far.

Reason for posting? I want every opponent in religious debates against the existence of a god to have the same reasoning.

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1mf74n...om/zs/882.html

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-11 08:53 AM

I understand where she is coming from with her argument, but I disagree that lack of proof disproves the existence of God.

"But you don't tell me you can't know that there isn't. I would say yes I know there isn't because I have been given no evidence."

Lack of evidence should not give a rational person certainty that something is untrue. This is why I'm agnostic and not atheist. It's entirely possible for something to be true and at the same time there be no proof of it. Maybe I just did a backflip, but I wasn't recording it and there were no witnesses. I know I did a backflip, but I can never prove that I did it. That would be a case where something is true and also has no proof.

Lack of proof should cast doubt on something, but not disprove it. I'm pretty sure I've argued extensively with MJordan/Desmethones about this in the past.

Skurai 2011-02-11 08:55 AM

BORKED

Skurai 2011-02-11 08:58 AM

Thank you for at least saying "maybe", !K_A!
That has me content enough to leave the arguement.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-11 03:00 PM

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5779/eatit.jpg

Wed-G 2011-02-11 03:31 PM

I'm actually pretty content too. You have reasoned and argued rationally in a manner which promotes healthy debate.

D3V 2011-02-14 09:51 AM

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Lack of proof should cast doubt on something, but not disprove it. I'm pretty sure I've argued extensively with MJordan/Desmethones about this in the past.
This is essentially how I feel about it, somewhat. I just feel that human logic and understanding isn't capable of unwrapping the universe we live in. What if there are multiple universes? Mankind cannot grasp at these straws at more than things we can measure with our current intellect and technology, but it doesn't mean we should sit around and worship something that a group of men wrote a couple thousand years ago, we should instead go out and try to solve the answers as a human race.

Skurai 2011-02-14 08:46 PM

I honestly don't care what's in the Universe/Multiverse. I have a laptop, and it works by me plugging it in, and programing it to do whatever I want it do. Gears turn, data saves. That's all I need to get by. All anyone else needs is to know how to make it. The world can be perfectly content with that.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-14 09:40 PM

Well it's a good thing you can speak for the whole world.

Wed-G 2011-02-15 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 693262)
Gears turn

lolwut?

Skurai 2011-02-15 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 693269)
Well it's a good thing you can speak for the whole world.

Well, what purpose do you care? No matter how much you look at what a rock is made of, it's still just going to sit there, doing nothing but rock-ing around. The moon moves around us, the sun gives us light. Why bother looking at them and figuring out what direction everything is going? It's nothing special.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-15 10:12 PM

Having more knowledge is rarely a bad thing. If humans just took everything at face value and didn't ask questions, we would still be living in caves.

Skurai 2011-02-16 05:44 AM

And many less species would be dying. Including the planet itself.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-16 08:04 AM

We wouldn't know that it is our fault or how to fix the problem and prevent it in the future if we didn't ask questions. Are you saying you agree with the nutjobs that call for all humans to kill themselves for the good of the planet? If so, please get started with yourself.

D3V 2011-02-16 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 693284)
And many less species would be dying. Including the planet itself.

I can agree with this. But at the same time, we have the capability to fix our issues.

Skurai 2011-02-16 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 693285)
We wouldn't know that it is our fault or how to fix the problem and prevent it in the future if we didn't ask questions. Are you saying you agree with the nutjobs that call for all humans to kill themselves for the good of the planet? If so, please get started with yourself.

No, that would be Mdselctr. (That's your cue, buddy!)
I just think we should turn off all types of Government, other than a basic law system, and toss out un-needed electronics. I don't need a 306 inch T.V. to go with my $6,000,000 DVD player. I'd much rather go for a walk with a good friend and talk. It lasts longer, is healthier, costs nothing, and harm nobody.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-16 10:44 PM

That's the nice thing about freedom. See, you're free to do whatever you want. Don't want to live with electronics? Turn them off or get rid of them. Just because you don't want it doesn't mean everyone else agrees. And that certainly isn't stopping you.


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