Little less than a week.

All that I did was explain how the wait times on Illidian are horrible and suggested moving to another server. Instead of being a responsible guild member and talking to me about it he launches a barrage of immature insaults with no backup whatsoever.
All this from one page of one thread and all outside of the flame forum.
And I never "fucked up". I'm more than happy on this server with these people. The only reason I fucking bothered to start talking about this was to get some new members on the board, and you turn it into a god damn flame war. Stop trying to make a fight out of everything...

First off, let's set some things straight. My responses are formed from a possibly biased opinion on Grav based on his actions of insulting me during the election, saying I would be a poor leader based on a few comments I made, and then turning around to insult other people for more trivial things than I even complained about in the election.

Anyway, I don't care about that anymore, it just lessened my view of Grav. I tire of his duplicity and his eagerness to turn anything into a fight.

Now, as for our undermining Grav's authority, I fail to truly see how that has happened. First off, I was one of the LAST zelaron members to join the fledgling group, hell, I wasn't even on Illidan or Burning Legion. From what I understand, is that the former members got tired of the queues and whatnot on Illidan during the first week, and moved servers. Zeal switched, and Grav jumped all over him, when Grav was testing other servers and none of the others had any queues or whatever. Now, if it were me, and they fixed Illidan, I would certainly have rejoined the Guild, where I had more friends to help out, but if Grav had jumped on me for playing on a different server the same way (which may not have been permanent), I would've stayed on Burning Legion as well. In essence, Grav was at least partially at fault for the Guild splitting.

Now, as far as the whole thing abut the 'fair vote', that appears to be a jab at me, since I was Grav's principal opponent for the election. Like I said, I was one of the last members to join (Slim was level 15 helping me start my noob quests, for God's sake). I merely moved there from Ner'zhul (mainly because I couldn't get on Illidan either). So, I was planning on joining the Zelaron guild anyway, but couldn't get on Illidan. So I started on Ner'zhul with my friend. Then I was informed that the majority of the Zelaron guild had moved to Burning Legion, so I moved where I had more friends.

So, yes. I obviously went onto Burning Legion, started up a guild, and stole all of Grav's members to intentionally undermine his authority so I could feel like I won the election. [/sarcasm]

Okay, well, that's something I didn't know. If all of what they're saying is true, Grav.....

Volls, my point in that post wasn't to take a jab at anyone, honestly. Like I said before, you guys are both two of my favorite members here. Ay, Volls, remember, you're one of the chosen ones, so I'd never take a jab at you. ;)

I doubt it's any of you guys intentions, but if you want to flame someone, flame away, just do it in the proper forum. Otherwise, the main point of my post above was, please keep this little disagreement between you guys (all of you guys, this isn't just Grav and Volls) off of the forums.

Ah, how could I forget?!

Actually, no, I said you could have a hosted forum regardless. I only said you would need to change the name for official sponsorship and to have it within the WoW forum. Zelaron has always been open to hosted forums. Just have one of the leaders PM me with the forum structure and whether they want a private usergroup and forums, etc.

Correction, YOU split up zelaron's only hope which was the WoW guild. Not that I care, zelaron will be dead soon due to a non-existent influx of d2 players. When that happens, your egotistic little crowd of grav dick suckers that you call a guild will shrivel up and die with the forum itself. Oh btw, did I mention my glee as to see the flame forum has eroded away? Well if I have already not, then here it is: MWHAHAHAHHAHA RAZ YOUR FORUM IS DEAD IMO ZELARON IS DYING BITE ME!!!!

The fuck are you blabbering about? The non-D2 forums have been kickin' it with their bad selves without any morons infesting it with there, "omg pk pk GIMME ITAM!!! lol" shit.

When D2's popularity runs out, this forum will become better.

Maybe the flame forum is becoming increasingly inactive because morons like you are straying away from Zelaron recently. We really can't make fun of you if you aren't going to fight back :( (well, I guess we could but it's more fun like that).

The D2 Forums were the busiest forums for quite some time, but that doesn't mean Zelaron will die, exactly. It just means that more people will have to find their way here by other means.

I've flamed my share of shit, other people need to start posting in the Flame Forum.

Shinto tried to make a flame war with me but it got thrown back in his face by multiple people. Atleast it's a start!

Wow you are all morons...

Yes, yes we are and you are our SUPREME RULER!

MORPHISIZE INTO

Hogwash.

You are clearly mistaken!

Wow, all I've gathered from this shitty thread is that the WoW gulds are split. That certainly helps out Zelaron..[/sarcasm]

That was the running argument a while back. Now, this thread was resurrected for some other reason...

Grav's superiority complex that doesn't enable him to not get the last word?

Blah blah blah.

I was thinking Zagggon's tendency to dig up threads after not visiting forever, but that is also true.

Blah blah blah.