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zagggon 2003-05-15 05:46 PM

matrix reloaded was it good?
 
i have not yet seen it can some one who saw it today tell me about it? like is it as awsom as u thought it would be or was it a disapointment???????

WetWired 2003-05-16 07:46 AM

It was very good, but I was somehow expecting better. It's still worth seeing soon, however.

Sum Yung Guy 2003-05-16 09:34 AM

It was deffintly good. I am going to see it again sunday..... my favorite quote from the movie: "So you got some skills."

zagggon 2003-05-16 05:39 PM

im gona go see it saturday :)!

Demosthenes 2003-05-16 10:23 PM

GREAT MOVIE!!

I reccomend it especially for the sci-fi buffs but even if u dont like sci-fi ur gonna love the action. Like WW said the 1st one set me up 2 expect somewhat better but it's a great movie overall...great sequel to the original.

ask_rabber 2003-05-16 11:47 PM

i hear it has little plot and lots of action scenes, but still well worth the money.

Anime-Otaku 2003-05-17 09:15 PM

the fight scenes couldve been made way better, it had a lot of plot rabber its just hard to follow to some people. but still most of the fight scenes couldve been made WAY better i mean half the time u can so tell its just a crappy animation.. i mean wheres the fun in that?

Rurouni Storm 2003-05-17 09:23 PM

It was good. Not incredible or quite livining up to the hype, but still good.

ask_rabber 2003-05-17 09:53 PM

saw it today. there was plot but it was hard to understand and a lot of it didnt make sense. like the kid he "saved," i mean, where does that come into play? it doesnt explain enough stuff.
as far as the fight scenes, the smith scene was my favorite. the twins were cool, but morpheus kicked their ass.

zagggon 2003-05-18 09:33 PM

i just saw it today and i was disapointed becuase where the fuck did cipher come from?!!! wtf tank killed him in the first movie and also where the fuck was tank? but other than those things and the fact that i just didnt think it lives up to allt he hype, i would give it an 8 out of 10

Sum Yung Guy 2003-05-19 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ask_rabber
saw it today. there was plot but it was hard to understand and a lot of it didnt make sense. like the kid he "saved," i mean, where does that come into play? it doesnt explain enough stuff.
as far as the fight scenes, the smith scene was my favorite. the twins were cool, but morpheus kicked their ass.

Watch the 'Animatrix' and play the 'Enter The Matrix' game, they fill in all the voids from the movie.

"CRØNîC-KîLLå" 2003-05-19 12:56 PM

it was amazing but the ending was too shit, it makes it seem like it's WAY too long...

zagggon 2003-05-19 03:22 PM

yea the ending did sorta suck, i mean wtf cipher was killed by tank in the first movie and also WTF!? where is tank he was so much better than that new moron

Sum Yung Guy 2003-05-19 04:02 PM

that wasnt cypher you moron, that was the guy that agent smith caught and made a copy of and got into the real world

oh and tank isnt back because he was having disicplin problems in real life and the directors didnt invite him back

Doofus_AW 2003-05-19 04:03 PM

Ive never even seen the original, my girlfriends bugging me to rent it so we can see the sequel.

Sum Yung Guy 2003-05-19 04:04 PM

what are you waiting for, see the original then the sequal

Doofus_AW 2003-05-19 04:17 PM

Its sitting in my DVD player now.

Titusfied 2003-05-19 09:18 PM

I jsut saw it tonight. I got done classes, watched the original and went to an 8:00 viewing.

I don't care what anyone else thinks. That movie was the shit. It had awesome action sequences and the plot was insane. I'm positive not everyone will understand it, but for those who do, it was sick. I do agree with rabber though, because there were some things that were not discussed at all. I'm sure they will be discussed in the next one.

Jesus zagggon, for the love of God, any fool can tell that wasn't Cypher. Like SYG said, it was the guy the agent took control of and answered the phone to in Neo's dream that one time. How else do you think Mr. Smith was able to get in those back doors only the people of Zion had access to?

If anyone else wants to talk about questions or conspire on the plot with revelations they might have had, please post it, because I love chatting about movies like this that is pretty tough to follow unless you really pay attention.

Just a side note, that damn architect was kind of confusing. I gotta get the script online or watch teh DVD and really break down his speech.

Demosthenes 2003-05-19 09:24 PM

this is kind of weird...alot of time when im idley sitting and doing nothing i like 2 compare some movies with religion, and after watching this 1 it just struck me...lol. And then the next day i read the news paper and it was comparing this movie with religion. Ill see if i can find the article and post it here.

zagggon 2003-05-19 10:13 PM

ur wrong that was cipher titus and i still hate the new nezer kenezer operator he suxorz, and lol his lips are fucking scary:wierd:

quikspy67 2003-05-20 12:04 AM

I haven't read any of these posts because it mightt ruin the movie so I'm only going to say: FUCK I REALLY WANT TO SEE THIS MOVIE SO BAD!!!

SoD-John 2003-05-20 06:41 AM

U know...I loved it BUT i only did not like the 20 minute sex scene in the beginning...it was irrelavent to the whole movie...the only thing i can think of is in the sequal trinity is going to have a child...but still the long drug out sex scene...cummon...thats rediculous.

zagggon 2003-05-20 06:43 AM

yea that was stupid

DaFrigginDoctah 2003-05-20 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ask_rabber
i hear it has little plot and lots of action scenes, but still well worth the money.

In my opinion, Matrix is nothing but techno-colored eyecandy.

Demosthenes 2003-05-20 02:23 PM

yea...that whole sex thing was kinda pointless...but who knows it might have some relevance in the next movie.

Xenn 2003-05-20 02:30 PM

It was graphically pleasing but had a lot of stupid things in it that made no sense. Neo emitting an EMP wave, for example. And it seems like whenever they ran into a question they couldn't really answer they just came up with some philosophical garbage to fill the blank.

"How do you know all this?"
"Because I have to (or am meant to) know it."

Sum Yung Guy 2003-05-20 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenn
It was graphically pleasing but had a lot of stupid things in it that made no sense. Neo emitting an EMP wave, for example. And it seems like whenever they ran into a question they couldn't really answer they just came up with some philosophical garbage to fill the blank.

"How do you know all this?"
"Because I have to (or am meant to) know it."

neo emitting the EMP brings up possibilities for Revolutions... like that the "real world" including Zion is just another layer of the Matrix.

Titusfied 2003-05-20 04:32 PM

That is something along the lines of what I was thinking. Maybe the architect led him to the door he knew Neo would go to, but it was actually another layer of the Martrix like you said.

Anyway, all that philosophical garbage is extremely relevent, although I'm sure not too many people would understand everything that was said the first time they heard it. There were a lot of lines that just about everyone would have to hear like 3 times to get what was said.

Does anyone else think that was Cypher like zagggon? I'm not positive, since I didn't bother looking for his name in the credits, but I am about 90% sure it wasn't. At first glance I thought it was, but then I realized it couldn't be.

Xenn, that "Because I have to." stuff was because they were programs. You don't ask how our posts get seen by everyone when we hit "Submit Reply" because you just know it will happen.

Jamesadin 2003-05-20 10:09 PM

I have to think that the Zion mission control was the coolest room in the entire movie.

Rurouni Storm 2003-05-20 10:13 PM

Actually, I have another theory on how Neo stopped the Sentinels. We now know that Smith's contact with Neo seems to have given him free will. In a way, he's been "disconnected" from the machines. Perhaps, in that moment, he also unwillingly gave Neo a "connection" to the machines?

Titusfied 2003-05-20 10:23 PM

Hmm, thats a new one. You never know. Hehe, your post count is 1337. :)

Bet Slaynish is jealous.

zagggon 2003-05-21 07:34 AM

ok ok iv done some research and that is not cipher it is the guy that smith took over.

Titusfied 2003-05-21 04:06 PM

Holy shit, are you serious? So, then me and the other guy that posted that before were right the whole time? Wow, aren't we special?

Xenn 2003-05-21 05:23 PM

I knew that the whole time ^_^

Btw the whole Neo-isn't-special thing is probably correct, the key to the difference in this 6th Matrix is

*drumroll*

Agent Smith!

That's my theory anyways.

zagggon 2003-05-21 06:29 PM

hmmm, Agent Smith... how so??

Titusfied 2003-05-21 06:31 PM

Yeah, I think that actually happened in every Matrix previous to this one too, so I doubt that has much to do with it. I know that Agent Smith is vital to the plot, but I don't think anything differently happened with Smith this time that didn't any other time, unless of course Neo didn't become The One in any of the other ones, which I'm pretty sure he did...

Maybe I am off basis with your thinking though, so explain if you could. :)

Sum Yung Guy 2003-05-22 09:31 AM

He didnt. It was a different person each time, and the architech guy said that Neo was different than the rest, his responses were opisit of the others.

Doofus_AW 2003-05-22 09:54 AM

If you stayed to watch the 30 second teaser after the credits it looks like there is going to be a final showdown between Agent Smith and Neo. I am guessing that Smith is the real key to the whole matrix.

Oh, and that was definitely Cipher at the end.

Titusfied 2003-05-22 10:40 AM

No no no no no!!! I can't believe even you thought that was Cipher! OMG, I'm going to have to do some research right now and figure this shit out for sure.

Doofus_AW 2003-05-22 01:07 PM

The guy smith morphed into (Bane) was clean shaven, the guy on the table had a little scrap of hair, thats why I think it was cipher. But I have seen other boards saying that they saw Agent Smith in Zion somewhere?? wtf is up with that? Did I miss a trailer or something?


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