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Raziel 2003-10-03 04:02 AM

Battle! Magus vs. Sephiroth
 
Arena: Unhallowed Ground - A graveyard, stretching for endless miles in all directions. The elevation of the cemetary varies wildly, with giant hills overlooking the entire area, to 40 foot pits filled with defiled corpses. The land is churned up in areas, tombstones lie broken, and crypts are warped and demented mutations of their former selves. The graveyard is perpetually blanketed by mist. The sun never rises and the moon changes phase constantly, one minute full, the next minute gone.

In the Red Corner, advertising a widow's peak only rivaled by Dracula himself! Equipped with his Doom Sickle, Ailment-Blocking Amulet and an array of arcane spells including the monstrous Dark Matter! The lost son of the Zeal Empire, the tyrant sorcerer, from Chrono Trigger: Magus!!!

And in the Blue Corner, wearing a uniform that seems a tad too stylish for a militray man! Armed with the fearsome Masamune, and carrying an assortment of destructive spells including the tremendous Super Nova summon! The bastard son of Jenvoa, the Angel of Death, from Final Fantasy 7: Sephiroth!!!

The air grows thick, like cooling blood, as these two behemoths approach one another. One, a vengeful mage hell-bent on amassing the power he requires to exact his retribution. The other, a superhuman soldier seeking the life energy that will bring him his desires of omnipotence. The fabric of reality can only sustain so much stress. Will the world survive after this conflict has come to an end? It's time to decide...

Cerridwen 2003-10-03 06:13 AM

Oh, DAMN~~!!!

I haven't really played through Chrono Trigger. All I know is Magus is this scythe or sickle wielding guy who gets to be on your party against Lavos...but his Dark Matter is REALLY painful.

Sephiroth on the other hand knows no pain and shows no fear.

I guess this will be a great bloody battle till the end.

I'm casting my vote on Sephiroth. Do Limit Breaks count?! (if he's got any inside of him; on the other hand, if he did, he could've made mincemeat out of Cloud....^_____^;;) Go, MASAMUNE~~~~!!!!

Raziel 2003-10-03 06:52 AM

Sephiroth didn't have any Limit Breaks in FF7, so no, he would have no access to them. I'm hoping that this will turn out to be a pretty active battle!

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-03 08:19 AM

I'm sure it will, 2 great characters against each other.

Kuja 2003-10-03 09:30 AM

Well im sure sephiroth would win!

Note: Im currently at work i will make a detailed post when i get home.

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-03 11:55 AM

I'd say something useful, but I'm not really imaginative.

Sephiroth will win, though.

uncapped 2003-10-03 01:31 PM

Holy shit, this is the best battle ever. Go post everyone! Go!

Kuja 2003-10-03 01:53 PM

Jeez guyz ... I will be home in 2-3 hours i want at least 1 good post before me ...
uncapped why aint you following your own advice ? ;)

Kuja`s #1 2003-10-03 06:22 PM

Well, I don't know much about Magus considering that I HATEChrono. So I'll list some of Sephiroth's attacks.

Ice3, Fire3, Bolt3, Massamune slash, Demi3, Bizzaro Energy, Stigma, Pale Horse, Wall, Black Wing Slash, Supernova

Well NO ONE can dodge Supernova. It could burn the shit out of Magus. Considering that Sephiroth has "All" materia attatched to his level 3 spells, Magus couldn't dodge that either. He could cast Wall to block Dark Matter.

They're both cool-headed from what I've observed. They aren't hot-headied or stupid. They would observe their foes. Well, Sephiroth goes slightly insane when he becomes evil, so he won't be as cool.

He could cast Bizzoro Energy to keep himself alive. Then with his speed, he could attack with Massamune Slash.

Battle:

Sephiroth(Human)
Massamune Slash. Fire3.
Magus: Dark Matter
Sephiroth morphs into Bizzoro Sephiroth.
Bizzoro Sephiroth: Bizzaro Energy. Physical attack. Demi3. Then he could do Stigma.

I don't know all that much about Magus, but that is a good enough ammount I think.

Science Note: Our sun which Sephiroths destroys is not a large star. There for it can not Supernova. Only large stores after become a Red Giant can explode ending in either a black hole or that really dense thing.

Kuja 2003-10-03 07:25 PM

Sephiroth
First he doesnt have materia
2nd he cant have his attack of when human when being Bizzoro Sephiroth cause he a totaly diff *thing* and it s a perma transformation.
3rd Raziel when you puted sephiroth did you mean like human only or the whole thing ?

About Magus

Weapon Doom Sickle !
Strengths : Attack, Magic and Fast !
Weakness : none
Just making a quick post i gonna add stuff later or tomorow.

Cerridwen 2003-10-03 07:48 PM

OK.

Sephiroth's kinda like human.

Magus isn't.

So who'll win?!

Considering they're both awesome characters, I'm at a loss...

But Sephiroth being all mighty and everything, yeah, I think I'll still cast my vote on him.

slaynish 2003-10-03 09:19 PM

I personally think sepheroth will win... Listen, he has all those scary clones and they can walk around... He kicks so much ass >.<

Kuja`s #1 2003-10-03 09:28 PM

Bizzaro Sephiroth has that attack, where the little mini-dudge raises a staff and Bizzaro attacks you.

Medieval Bob 2003-10-04 08:56 AM

I have a quick question.

If you're portraying Sephiroth as a "boss character" type, wheras your characters have to fight him, why not portray Magus as the same?

He was a much more formidable enemy when you fought him in his castle. He used a magic shield that constantly changed weaknesses.

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-04 09:18 AM

I figured that's how we were suppose to talk about them anyway.

Kuja 2003-10-04 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medieval Bob
I have a quick question.

If you're portraying Sephiroth as a "boss character" type, wheras your characters have to fight him, why not portray Magus as the same?

Actualy we are suposed to give them all they had access to wich mean from when he was at his stronger and all his spell/attack. So yeah we have to see Magus WITH ALL he got !

Kuja 2003-10-04 09:11 PM

Magus is the Ulimate Hybrid between a caster and a melee not to mention is very high speed ! He is extremly strong in melee and his spell are extremly destructive !

His Barrier Change Absorbs all magic except the magic most recently used by himself (for example, if he uses a Fire attack, he's not Absorbing Fire). His Physical damage is Very Good, He Counterattacks with either a Fire spell, a Water spell, a Lightning spell, or a Shadow spell(changing his Barrier). After being about half the combat his Magic Defense Raise lot ! The only Melee attack that can do more then Scartch him is The Masamune.
And Remember That Sephiroth CANNOT use Masamune once he is transformed !

His spell:

Lightning

water

Fire

Lightning 2

Ice 2

Fire 2

Dont get fooled by level 2 of these spell they are extremly strong there no level 3 magic in chrono trigger!

Magic Wall Greatly raise his magic def !

Barrier Change make him possible to damage with only 1 type of magic (absorb other type).

Dark Bomb type: Shadow Damage (can be compared to a mini-ultima stronger then flare but little weaker then ultima)

Edit: 
Almost forgot !
Dark Mist type: Shadow Damage. A little weaker then Dark Matter!


Dark Matter type: Shadow Damage. his fav attack ! (It IS Even STONGER then Ultima !)

Geyser Type: Magic damage and causes hp to gradually drop for all characters.

With That Said ! I change my vote for Magus That Would DESTROY Sephiroth in Human Form And would take damage fighting Sephiroth in his Transformed but would be HEALED often by sephiroth because of his Barrier Change !


Magus 1.
Sephiroth 0wned.

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-04 09:14 PM

Good points, I'll switch my vote too.

D3V 2003-10-04 09:22 PM

I haven't played Chrono trig in a long ass time, but I think that Magus will take sephiorth.

Dark matter wins,

Dark Bomb wins,

Magus is pretty much evil, he's like satan, he will take over this human, no contest, MAGUS OWNS!

RoboticSilence 2003-10-05 12:02 AM

Magus was a precursor to Sephiroth and I'm sure that his badassness and utter ability to own was taken into consideration when Squaresoft created Sephiroth. The fact is that Magus is clearly more powerful than Sephiroth (Kuja covered that) and there is absolutely no contest. Sephiroth would get raped like Little Bow Wow.

D3V 2003-10-05 12:31 AM

hahahah, yes thats true, its cuz..



magus owns,
... all, game over, go home, you lose, badda bing, peace, later, hasta la vista, adios.

Raziel 2003-10-05 03:04 PM

Oh God, I just can't help myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuja
The only Melee attack that can do more then Scartch him is The Masamune.
And Remember That Sephiroth CANNOT use Masamune once he is transformed !

Just because the sword is called the Masamune, means in no way that it is the same sword. The CT Masamune was a blade of good and righteousness. Forged with the intent of upholding honor. Sephiroth's Masamune is the blade of a fallen hero. It is a sword tempered in betrayal. It is evil, simply by association with Sephiroth. An evil sword would have even less effect than a normal sword, or a heroic sword. Sephiroth's only hope is transforming into his "Bizzarro" or "Savior" forms and then avoiding all magic use. That's not a particularly hopeful situation one way or another.

Kuja 2003-10-05 07:19 PM

Will someone stand up for sephiroth ?

Raziel 2003-10-05 07:21 PM

I know that there are a ton of Sephiroth supporters on this forum. Where are you people? If you want Sephiroth to advance to the next round, get in the game! Otherwise, he's going to continue to be pummeled by Magus.

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-05 08:06 PM

Well, if Sephiroth gets all those materia and stuff he had when cloud had the flashback and they faught that dragon, he'd kick anyone's ass. But I'm not sure if you count that as his, even though he had it at the time.

Kuja 2003-10-07 12:57 AM

Meh i know we got many ppl who like seph !
Come on someone stand up for that fag !

Cerridwen 2003-10-08 09:33 AM

Sephiroth wins by a long shot, because you know WHY?! He can just toss his hair, make mincemeat out of poor Magus (by his badass skills and whatnot), and stride off into the beautiful sunset still loooking cool and evil. The END.

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-08 09:51 AM

How about being more specific.

Kuja 2003-10-08 10:08 AM

Yeah really i would like to know more about that *hair toss* attack. Best it could pull out of magus is a sneeze.

Kuja 2003-10-09 12:09 PM

There is one way i could think that would give sephiroth a chance to win.
But im not gonna support him.
As for now magus will just end up cutting sephiroth head off.

Who will defend this poor failure ?

Kuja`s #1 2003-10-09 03:43 PM

The one attack that is impossible to dodge.... SUPERNOVA!! It completely incinerates you. The fucking sun blows up in your face! How could this dudes shield withstand that? It couldn't.

Sovereign 2003-10-09 03:45 PM

Actually if his shield has a different charge (now it has to be ubar strong) then the material being ejected from teh sun, it should be able to deflect the mass being shot at him. The only thing is it would shoot the guy wiht the shield a few million miles away from where he started. So it is possible, probable no.

Kuja`s #1 2003-10-09 03:50 PM

Its not probable. Its not possible. If you think of it logically, its not possible for Sephiroth to survive the blast either.

His shield can defend against anything except what he's using right? He could wait for Magus to use Shadow magic and then cast Shadow Flare. This attack is really strong. The second most powerful Enemy Skill except for Pandora's Box. It could probably do some serious damage.

Sephiroth's Wall could help protect him against Magus's attacks.

Materia SHOULD be allowed. Sephiroth can only used the materia given to him in the flashback. He can't switch or get new materia.

Sovereign 2003-10-09 03:52 PM

Meh i dont even no who sephiroth is. Just by the sound of it though, i want the guy who can blow up suns to win ^_^

Kuja 2003-10-09 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuja`s #1
Its not probable. Its not possible. If you think of it logically, its not possible for Sephiroth to survive the blast either.

1st of all the super nova your talking about is cinematic !
So it is FORBIDDEN !

2nd The super nova from seph in game isnt strong.

3rd If the spell used by sephiroth aint the same as type that Magus casted it wont do damage it will HEAL him !

Sovereign 2003-10-09 04:33 PM

Buffoon #1 = PWNED
Kuja= VICTOR

Kuja`s #1 2003-10-09 06:43 PM

Uh....didn't you say you wanted Sephiroth to win Sov?

Raziel 2003-10-09 10:53 PM

Any materia Sephiroth had access to is usable, but I don't believe Sephiroth was capable of casting Wall at all. If he was, then my memory has betrayed me, but I honestly don't think he had that spell in his repertoire.

As for the "Super Nova" argument, the whole "he can't dodge the attack because it makes the sun explode" deal is bogus. The fact that he was capable of blowing up the exact same group of planets and the exact same star every time negates it's ultra-destructive properties. All it really amounts to is a huge fiery explosion, not a star exploding, therefore, yes Magus could both suvive and escape the blast. It's also not a non-elemental attack, and it takes a ton of time to cast, so Magus could concievably cast a Fire 2 spell before Super Nova had even managed to hit him, thereby allowing him to absorb the damage. But, I digress.

The decisions were made before this post, I just felt like throwing in my two cents. The winner has been decided! Please head to the Bracket Thread for the victory announcement!

Kuja`s #1 2003-10-09 10:56 PM

He could cast Wall.In his final form. Its cast automatically at the beginning of the battle.

Kuja`s #1 2003-10-09 10:56 PM

CLOSED!


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