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D3V 2004-01-14 08:35 PM

Downloading ILLEGAL Music
 
Well, there are many people out there that do it, I am one of them, and I'm sure that many of you do, or have downloaded illegal music at one point in time. I was wondering what you thought about downloading music, good ? bad ? POST POST.

Personally, I think that people shouldn't download music because its hurting the companies that publish these cds, but I don't give a shit about the artists because they make plenty of money from doing tours and shows.

!King_Amazon! 2004-01-14 08:37 PM

I feel the same way but it makes them not want to write music so we're really only hurting ourselved.

D3V 2004-01-14 08:42 PM

Or, in reverse it could make more controversial artists complain about it in their music.

timmay1113 2004-01-14 09:48 PM

Actually your just hurting the companies not the artists, the artists dont make much money off of the cd sales so i dont think they give a shit. They get their money off of concerts and selling stuff with their name on it. I dont dl excessive amounts of songs. I dont see much wrong with it unless its really really hurting the companies.

Adrenachrome 2004-01-14 10:28 PM

Yes but if CD sales are low they wont get booked for the big tours.

RoboticSilence 2004-01-14 10:34 PM

I think you mean "Illegally downloading music" not "downloading illegal music"... boy does that sound funny.

Raziel 2004-01-15 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by D3V
but I don't give a shit about the artists because they make plenty of money from doing tours and shows.

I honestly cannot believe I just read that. That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

Randuin 2004-01-15 09:02 AM

Some people download, some people buy, it's just their choice...

Personally, I buy CDs sometimes, but mainly I download since I have a MD and not a CD player o.O And hell I'm not bothering to rip mp3s off a CD and then transfering them onto my MD

SA gives you all the porn and mp3s you want

Grav 2004-01-15 09:43 AM

YA FUCK THE POPO AND THE RIIA AND THE FUCKING FUCKEERS MUSIC INDUSTRIETHATS NEEDS TO GET SOME LARGE C0CKS IN ITS VESTIGULE!!!!!!!

Adrenachrome 2004-01-15 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Raziel
Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V
but I don't give a shit about the artists because they make plenty of money from doing tours and shows.

I honestly cannot believe I just read that. That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

Hate to contradict you Raz, but it's true, the tours land the biggest checks.

But

The record sales is what you need in the long run.

KagomJack 2004-01-15 11:45 AM

i download illegal music, but I hate the sites that make you pay to download certain music. It's just gay.

Penny_Bags 2004-01-15 01:22 PM

i have 86 full albums burned... i mean... bought... right...

D3V 2004-01-15 01:53 PM

EDIT.

RoboticSilence 2004-01-15 03:03 PM

Hello... if no one buys their CDs then how are they going to fund the shows?

sh0e 2004-01-15 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenachrome
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raziel
Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V
but I don't give a shit about the artists because they make plenty of money from doing tours and shows.

I honestly cannot believe I just read that. That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

Hate to contradict you Raz, but it's true, the tours land the biggest checks.

But

The record sales is what you need in the long run.

adrenachrome 3> raziel

d3v did you not understand what adrenachrome said?

Adrenachrome 2004-01-15 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RoboticSilence
Hello... if no one buys their CDs then how are they going to fund the shows?

They get paid for the shows.. The show is 'funded' by whoever hosts the show.

sh0e 2004-01-15 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenachrome
Quote:

Originally Posted by RoboticSilence
Hello... if no one buys their CDs then how are they going to fund the shows?

They get paid for the shows.. The show is 'funded' by whoever hosts the show.

probably what he means is.. if no one buys their cds who will want to host the show and "fund" them?
but i dont want to accidentally insert words or anything else in his mouth yet

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Originally Posted by D3V
EDIT.
Last edited by Adrenachrome on 01-15-2004 at 05:57 PM

pwnt

D3V 2004-01-15 07:02 PM

Fuckign adrena, I didn't do anything wrong, why didn't you edit anyone elses posts? ....yeah.

Adrenachrome 2004-01-15 07:10 PM

Because I'm tired of your negativity, chill.

Don't get this thread closed.

D3V 2004-01-15 07:12 PM

NEGATIVITY, Raz posted negativity, you didn't edit his post.

Grav 2004-01-15 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by D3V
NEGATIVITY, Raz posted negativity, you didn't edit his post.

Uh oh!

Someone's being a bit.. NEGATIVE!

Here, D3V. http://www.care-bears.com/

D3V 2004-01-15 07:26 PM

Lets just move this shithole thread I made to the trash can, no fucking point of letting people spam for a few more days, just trash it NOW.

Grav 2004-01-15 07:36 PM

Well, isn't that a negative way to look at things.

D3V 2004-01-15 08:44 PM

This is my point exactly, you can't one mother fucking thing seriously. All you do is go around and fuck up threads, post bullshit that isn't relevant to anything, somebody fucking TRASH THIS THREAD.

Grav 2004-01-15 08:48 PM

Tsk tsk! You're going off topic in a very negative way, D3V!

Damn RIAA.

zagggon 2004-01-15 08:51 PM

The whole music industry is full of rich dipshits that have no respect for the everyday person. They deserve to have their music ripped from kazaa and other places....besides who the fuck cares they are rich.

Sovereign 2004-01-15 08:52 PM

The cry baby bitches at metalica claim thhat illegal downloads caused their last album to flop. Bullshit, they just cant admit that they have shitty music.

D3V 2004-01-15 08:55 PM

Maybe we should hold a public execution, well PPV at least, then you could make more money than their cd.

Grav 2004-01-15 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by D3V
Maybe we should hold a public execution, well PPV at least, then you could make more money than their cd. And Graviton, SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH, you gay ass cock sucking bitch.

Aren't you flaming outside of the flame forum now?

What a negative kid!

I do believe this calls for an edit!


The RIAA pisses me off!

Sovereign 2004-01-15 09:01 PM

Edited it. D3v knock it off. Take it to the flame forum. you obviously hate grav, let out the rage there NOT here.

D3V 2004-01-15 09:16 PM

He's off topic, thats basically spam, so shouldn't that be considered an equal level of offense as a flame?

Grav 2004-01-15 09:20 PM

Huh? I'm mostly on-topic! I really do hate the RIAA!

I'm sick of them claiming to be for the music recording industry's best interest, or whatever. They are doing it for themselves.

sh0e 2004-01-16 10:28 AM

http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/riaa-v-thepeople.php
for anyone that doesnt know yet.. this may interest you
most recently notable is that verizon pwnt the riaa.. kinda

Medieval Bob 2004-01-16 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by D3V
NEGATIVITY, Raz posted negativity, you didn't edit his post.

Raz isn't thought of as a horrid pathetic sack of... Oh this isn't the flame forum.

And also,

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V
He's off topic, thats basically spam, so shouldn't that be considered an equal level of offense as a flame?

A post complaining about something being off topic having no correlation to the subject at hand is off topic.

Now, as for what I was going to say before I was so rudely interrupted.

Verizon may have pwnt the RIAA a bit, but they still suxorz. I barely get any reception in my dorm room... *sniffles* All the people with Sprint phones get reception... *breaks down into tears*

uncapped 2004-01-16 11:25 AM

I have Nextel. Nextel pwnz Verizon.

Grav 2004-01-16 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh0e
http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/riaa-v-thepeople.php
for anyone that doesnt know yet.. this may interest you
most recently notable is that verizon pwnt the riaa.. kinda

I've already ANNOUNCED that!

squidblaine 2004-01-16 03:12 PM

If you like a band alot, you should do the decent thing and go buy their CDs to support them. However poor or rich they are. :p

Raziel 2004-01-18 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrenachrome
Hate to contradict you Raz, but it's true, the tours land the biggest checks.

But

The record sales is what you need in the long run.

Yes, but for Dev to claim that a band makes all of it's money through tours is ludicrous. They don't pass around a collection plate at the end of the show and walk home with a handful of cash. They get paid to do the show, and the pay they recieve is because they worked their asses off to put on that show. They work like crazy while touring, and they get paid accordingly. That pay doesn't make up for numbshit retards donwloading all of their songs for free, unless you're Britney Spears and you get paid for simply breathing.

Plus, a great percentage of that money goes towards the venue and the people supporting the tour. To claim that you shouldn't be required to buy a band's CD because they make all of their money touring is ridiculous. They get paid to tour because it's hard work. They should also get paid for their music because you're listening to it.

supaflip_69 2004-01-18 08:46 AM

how do u actually know that cd company sales are down...no1 is allowed to look at their "books"....they're just looking for a medium to blame...just as someone can say, "the filesharing technology is reducing sales by millions"..another person can point out 101 ways that money is being used inneffectively in the music industry and by their compaines..this would lower expenses..therefore larger sales margins

a study was done by Janis Ian (a musical artist). Her major find was that when she promised to give her songs out for free on the internet..he sales went up 30%...and when she acutually gave her songs for free via the internet..her sales grew by 300%!!...ask anyone in marketing..for every single product u give away..u gain 3 buyers..(not sure if this is known as "loss sales advertising")...her study is found here..look at her interesting facts near the bottom:
http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html

large corporations such as aol time warner/disney..work like this: when they see a new technology such as "filesharing" they first want to DESTROY IT because it supposedly conflicts with their profit margin..and when they can't destroy it..they go and OWN IT so they can control it for their own uses and sell 99c songs...just look at what apple did w/ itunes..or realnetworks w/ their media service..or even napster..absorption of new technology after destruction of it has failed

Eddie_Perez 2004-01-18 09:02 AM

I buy cd's with a collector mentality, but yeah... I'm downloading music right now.


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