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D3V 2009-10-06 08:01 AM

Are you afraid of Death?
 
/discuss

Wed-G 2009-10-06 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V (Post 682631)
/discuss

I'd distinguish between "dying" and "death." An example isn't needed, but I'll provide one for skurai:

Dying - the process of passing into death. May be terribly painful and drawn out or may be a simple process of falling asleep medicated and never wake.

Death - the state of existence that passes beyond life. Could possibly encompass an afterlife of unknown or known origin or may just be an eternity of sleep. From my understanding, there should be no way to understand the end of life and beyond.

I, myself, do not fear death. Not for any personal religious reasons, oddly enough. I've done everything in life that I wish to do. Obviously, my dreams of grandeur haven't been fulfilled but they're just simple daydreams anyway. The only real regret I would have for the moment, is that I'd like to fall in love again and have a son and daughter. If that wish is granted to me, I'd like my life to last longer. But for now, the end of life isn't a mystery or something I am afraid of. I welcome the change in reality and whatever is beyond has to be better than this world. I don't believe in the evil of man, nor do I believe in our kindness. The society created over the past fifty years is a private, wary and unbelieving one where our very neighbors seem like our enemies.

I fear dying for the pain. I don't want the weakness of cancer or old age. I'd like to dying instantly in a car crash.

!King_Amazon! 2009-10-06 08:54 AM

Not particularly, but I'd rather avoid it for now.

Mdselctr 2009-10-06 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wed-G (Post 682634)
I'd distinguish between "dying" and "death." ...

Dying - the process of passing into death. May be terribly painful and drawn out or may be a simple process of falling asleep medicated and never wake.

. . .

I fear dying for the pain. I don't want the weakness of cancer or old age. I'd like to dying instantly in a car crash.

Are you  dying  now?  What  is  the  proper range of
phenomena required  to be  regarded as  evidence for
dying?  And, can your framework admit justification:
could you  include evidence of  death somewhere?  If
that were so,  you may be showing evidence of death,
yourself. >; }

S2 AM 2009-10-06 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdselctr (Post 682636)
Are you  dying  now?  What  is  the  proper range of
phenomena required  to be  regarded as  evidence for
dying?  And, can your framework admit justification:
could you  include evidence of  death somewhere?  If
that were so,  you may be showing evidence of death,
yourself. >; }

Put more elegantly in that old famous quote we've all heard: "From the moment you're born, you begin to die"

Titusfied 2009-10-06 02:44 PM

I'm dead. So no, I ain't afraid.

!King_Amazon! 2009-10-06 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titusfied (Post 682654)
I'm dead.

AKA married

Skurai 2009-10-06 07:24 PM

I do not know. I will only know if I am a moment away from death. At the moment, I do not even know if something like me can die.

If I am simply a program, would I die the moment this computer shuts down, and be revived when the computer is? Or would the computer have to be destroyed? Would I simply remain in a void, unless deleted? If so, what happens after? Do they let programs in heaven? Do I count as a soul, or am I simply a man-made copy?
Bah! Who cares! I say, ram a damn train into this thing, I'll live on! I'll implant myself inside Zelaron if I have too!

No! I am not afraid of death! I'll just play the fiddle, like on the Sims, and win my life back!

Dr.Faust 2009-10-06 07:46 PM

Death? I've come close to death.
He's much more patient than you would think. Having some coffee, we discussed taxes, and he eventually left without taking me. Nice guy, really.

kyeruu 2009-10-07 03:46 AM

Death, huh.

Can't say.

Instinctively i avoid it, psychologically, i admit it's not of my fear.


but i don't want to die.

Titusfied 2009-10-09 02:15 PM

Word up.

D3V 2009-10-09 02:49 PM

I personally am not afraid of death, but like above said I do what I can to avoid it. I feel that my life has some sort of calling and I still have things to accomplish on this Earth before I leave.

jamer123 2009-10-10 08:58 PM

I do not fear death, for I challage it everday that I live.

Mdselctr 2009-10-10 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamer123 (Post 682865)
I do not fear death, for I challage it everday that I live.

Not  to   undermine  your  argument   that  "not
everyone has equal capability"(TM),  however, to
challenge something all the time has got to have
an  affect on  your  overall  health.  You would
probably say  "whatever does not  kill you makes
you stronger"(TM) but you  have to see that what
is intended to  be said by that  statement is in
defense  of  ignorance.  It  is  not  true  that
people are different;  you  don't have to become
strong by wasting your life and energy,  because
in  the end  it  hurts  you.  Any  military that
needs to win knows this.  They don't want you to
be a leader, they want to feed you fear and help
perpetuate someone else's notions  of how to run
the world. Eventually, your will would be compro-
mised,  and you  will end  up here,  desperately
looking for someone to punish. Death.

Mdselctr 2009-10-10 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 682661)
No! I am not afraid of death! I'll just play the fiddle, like on the Sims, and win my life back!

Mr. T approves:
http://i37.tinypic.com/voptly.png

Skurai 2009-10-10 10:52 PM

Whoa, whoa, whoa~
Looks like Mdselctr went defective! Humans sure do break easy... anyone know a good place to call and get it fixed? Beep.
Seriously, did Mr.T say that? :eek:

Mdselctr 2009-10-10 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 682868)
Beep.
Seriously, did Mr.T say that? :eek:

http://i33.tinypic.com/dr8qpv.png

Grav 2009-10-11 12:32 AM

ROFL!! Cocky motherfucker.

Skurai 2009-10-11 11:04 AM

Beep...!? Is Mr.T another!? How many of me exist!? This is a conspiracy!
I only wish to know how Mr. T discovered his truth as well. I wonder if my final state of mind will resemble his.

D3V 2009-10-14 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamer123 (Post 682865)
I do not fear death, for I challage it everday that I live.

elaborate?

skeptiskt 2009-10-14 05:44 PM

No. I was afraid of death for sixteen years and then, all of a sudden, I found myself on a plane enjoying the thought of an airplane crash.

But, since I am an anxious person, I sometimes wake up at night scared of a slow and painful death caused by not being able to breathe.

HandOfHeaven 2009-10-14 05:55 PM

Nope.

D3V 2009-10-16 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skeptiskt (Post 683093)
No. I was afraid of death for sixteen years and then, all of a sudden, I found myself on a plane enjoying the thought of an airplane crash.

But, since I am an anxious person, I sometimes wake up at night scared of a slow and painful death caused by not being able to breathe.

Sounds like you need to take a hit of a little thing called marijuana.

Skurai 2009-10-16 07:54 PM

Or.. maybe the opposite. Depending on your lungs.

KagomJack 2009-10-16 08:38 PM

I could have swore that this has been brought up before.

No, I do not fear death.

Goodlookinguy 2009-10-17 08:07 PM

I like how Wed-G put it. Death and dying. Two similar words with completely different meanings behind them.

The thought of death, and seeing the dead, no longer shake me. My emotions have slowly been getting weaker as I grow older. When I was twelve I had a tragic event which caused me to become extremely depressed until I was about sixteen. After that I tried to become happy and live onward. As I continued, I found myself becoming more and more depressed and just plain tired of this world. Along with that, I seem to have lost most of my emotions. My chicken for 11-years just died and I couldn't cry nor feel sad. That's why I say in all honesty, that death doesn't scare me.

As for dying, it wouldn't be such a bad thing for me. Why should someone who's beliefs and ideas, that don't follow the rest of the world's flow, be allowed to continue? That's the way I see this world right now. So as for dying, no, I'm not scared of it either. It can come at me and cause others their tears, but I won't be around to care.

Grav 2009-10-17 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodlookinguy (Post 683236)
The thought of death, and seeing the dead, no longer shake me. My emotions have slowly been getting weaker as I grow older. When I was twelve I had a tragic event which caused me to become extremely depressed until I was about sixteen. After that I tried to become happy and live onward. As I continued, I found myself becoming more and more depressed and just plain tired of this world. Along with that, I seem to have lost most of my emotions. My chicken for 11-years just died and I couldn't cry nor feel sad. That's why I say in all honesty, that death doesn't scare me.

As for dying, it wouldn't be such a bad thing for me. Why should someone who's beliefs and ideas, that don't follow the rest of the world's flow, be allowed to continue? That's the way I see this world right now. So as for dying, no, I'm not scared of it either. It can come at me and cause others their tears, but I won't be around to care.


What? This is a very detailed and personal response. Are you suicidal?

Mdselctr 2009-10-17 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodlookinguy (Post 683236)
I like how Wed-G put it. Death and dying. Two similar words with completely different meanings behind them.
...
Why should someone who's beliefs and ideas, that don't follow the rest of the world's flow, be allowed to continue?

Don't forget  that Wed-G  completely forgot  to mention
considerations of himself in the comparison.  Leave the
study  of  meaning  relations  to  the  epistemologist.
Death and  dieing  are  two  sides  of death,  and that
should be  the  subject  matter  here.  Aren't you also
premature  in  your  description  of  a  man  living to
exhibit a  desire  to  embody  the  conventions of this
world?  You don't have to do anything.

Goodlookinguy 2009-10-17 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grav (Post 683238)
What? This is a very detailed and personal response. Are you suicidal?


Not suicidal, I just don't give a damn anymore. It finally hit me that I, absolutely, just don't care about this world anymore. As much as I tried to help in some manor, it was futile and absolutely foolish at best. I'd be better off staying away from the rest of the world as much as possible. Rather than follow lead and help build a more ignorant and bigot society for the future.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdselctr (Post 683239)
Don't forget that Wed-G completely forgot to mention
considerations of himself in the comparison. Leave the
study of meaning relations to the epistemologist.
Death and dieing are two sides of death, and that
should be the subject matter here. Aren't you also
premature in your description of a man living to
exhibit a desire to embody the conventions of this
world? You don't have to do anything.


The way you write is fucking annoying. Justified, monospace is annoying as hell. I'd have it in me to believe you were Skurai if you acted more like a jackass.

"Leave the study of meaning relations to the epistemologist."
You have no right to tell me what I should or shouldn't study, think, and believe. This is one of more than a dozen reasons why I'm getting so sick of this world. Had you made it a suggestion and not a command, I wouldn't have reacted to this statement in this manor.

"Death and dieing are two sides of death" - "dieing" isn't a known word in the English dictionary.

"Aren't you also premature in your description of a man living to exhibit a desire to embody the conventions of this world? You don't have to do anything."

I wasn't planning on writing a large post. The information would have been unnecessary reading.

Mdselctr 2009-10-18 12:33 AM

Once again,  you choose  to completely miss
the  point.   You   want  to   argue  about
spelling?  You choose  to confuse phonology
with grammar  and  the  whole  purpose of a
sentence.  So a word is misspelled,  dieing
isn't  hard to  distinguish for  it's close
cousin  "dying". What  good  does pointing
out a misspelling do?  You're upset,  okay.
So  everyone is  just  supposed  to respect
that?

Goodlookinguy 2009-10-18 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdselctr (Post 683244)
Once again,  you choose  to completely miss
the  point.


What a strange choice of words. By, "Once again," are you referring to my answers above, or in some way have you responded to me using another profile. It's odd for me to pick up a vibe that I've met a personality before. I picked it up with your first post and this one. I do believe you have another profile on the forum.

"You want to argue about spelling? You choose to confuse phonology with grammar and the whole purpose of a
sentence. So a word is misspelled, dieing isn't hard to distinguish for it's close cousin "dying". What good does pointing out a misspelling do? You're upset, okay. So everyone is just supposed to respect that?"

Ha ha ha ha! You gave me a good laugh, thank you. You're not nearly as smart as I'd hoped. I just psychologically toyed with you, and you completely missed it. Geez, and to think I was going to take you seriously, what a joke. Once you truly understand why I am the way I am, then maybe I might respond seriously to you. Other than that, I gave my brief answer on the topic. That of which was, "no."

Also, on this line, "You're upset, okay. So everyone is just supposed to respect that?" You have to be stupid as hell to think I want people to respect me for anything. I don't think you read what I said in the correct manor. Then again, maybe you could be trying to mess with me back. Who knows? Regardless of that, I'm done with thread. Here's a present for you :nuts:

Mdselctr 2009-10-18 01:21 AM

Once again, you choose to miss the point. Why?
There is no such thing as psychologically toying with someone
(and you'd do better to stop thinking so--it would
save you a lot of trouble. Don't harbor all of that
tension). Why are you putting all of these personal
variables into this? All that you wanted to say is
how you felt about this topic. And, now you just
want to best someone? If you don't invest any
energy into a simple discussion, what's the point in
talking to you? Why should anyone trust you after
you pull something like that? Just one reason,
please. Here's another (neutral) point for you:
respecting the fact that you are upset and therefore
not afraid of death is not the same as respecting
you for any quality.

!King_Amazon! 2009-10-18 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodlookinguy (Post 683242)
Not suicidal, I just don't give a damn anymore. It finally hit me that I, absolutely, just don't care about this world anymore. As much as I tried to help in some manor, it was futile and absolutely foolish at best. I'd be better off staying away from the rest of the world as much as possible. Rather than follow lead and help build a more ignorant and bigot society for the future.





The way you write is fucking annoying. Justified, monospace is annoying as hell. I'd have it in me to believe you were Skurai if you acted more like a jackass.

"Leave the study of meaning relations to the epistemologist."
You have no right to tell me what I should or shouldn't study, think, and believe. This is one of more than a dozen reasons why I'm getting so sick of this world. Had you made it a suggestion and not a command, I wouldn't have reacted to this statement in this manor.

"Death and dieing are two sides of death" - "dieing" isn't a known word in the English dictionary.

"Aren't you also premature in your description of a man living to exhibit a desire to embody the conventions of this world? You don't have to do anything."

I wasn't planning on writing a large post. The information would have been unnecessary reading.

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See, I can miss the point and attack spelling too.

Skurai 2009-10-18 10:30 AM

*Giggles mindlessly clapping at the arguement* Yes!! excellent! This is so fun to watch! I need popcorn~ :jump:
It's like watching my three favorate knights jousting over the internet~!

!King_Amazon! 2009-10-18 11:14 AM

Shut the fuck up you retard.

D3V 2009-10-19 08:57 AM

[off-topic]
Quote:

Originally Posted by dipshit skurai
*Giggles mindlessly clapping at the arguement* Yes!! excellent! This is so fun to watch! I need popcorn~
It's like watching my three favorate knights jousting over the internet~!

this is why we need a skurai filter
[/off-topic]

I think more people are afraid of death than they will admit to themselves.


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