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Doofus_AW 2004-04-16 02:24 PM

Griswold set Ideas
 
Well much to my surprise I killed Thresh Socket last night with my lameass 31 mf zon and he drops a Griswolds Cadeucus on me. Now I have the complete set and want to use it. I already have three 40/15 jewels for the weapon and was wondering about what to put in the 8 other open sockets. I am fine on IAS and resists and was thinking about boosting defense and mf mostly. Any ideas would be appreciated.

kockblocker1 2004-04-16 02:38 PM

Socketing the Shield with Pdiamonds will give you almost max resits in hell (along with the set bonuses). For the helm and armor I socketed mine with IO runes. The result was +50 to vitality, along with the +35 from Verdungos I was running around with close to 1400 life before BO. I have seen people drop Topazes in there for MF but itÂ’s really up to you.

Titusfied 2004-04-16 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Doofus_AW
I am fine on IAS and resists and was thinking about boosting defense and mf mostly.


So obviously, PDiamonds are not the best option. Life and MF... Ist's and Io's? I don't know, haven't played in a while, I was just surprised to see you post!

Upgrade Armor and throw Pul's in that bitch for mass loads of Def maybe?

Doofus_AW 2004-04-16 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Titusfied
I don't know, haven't played in a while, I was just surprised to see you post!

Been insanely busy at work but I am still around :D New girlfriend keeping my joystick busy too :p

badboy 2004-04-16 09:55 PM

Try shael runes for hit recovery and faster block.

Vollstrecker 2004-04-16 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Titusfied
Upgrade Armor and throw Pul's in that bitch for mass loads of Def maybe?

Can't upgrade Set items. :(

Pul runes may be worthwhile in the Armor, it would really depend on if the +Def from Griz armor is factored before %ED, (Like +max in a weapon is counted toward weapon total). I think it would count like that. A perfect (950) DEF Griz armor with 3x Pul would be 1805 DEF.

Edit: I don't think Shael's for a faster block rate would be effective at all, with the inherent 65% from the shield itself, and Holy Shield also gives a Block Rate boost.

HandOfHeaven 2004-04-16 10:27 PM

What would you suggest putting in the caddy besides 40/15's? Any certain runes or other jewels?

Vollstrecker 2004-04-16 11:06 PM

You really only need like 45% IAS Zealing with Fanaticism to reach 4FPA Zeal. Most of that is on the Weapon. I'd go with 2x Ohm or 2x 40/15 Max in the weapon, and maybe a Jah just to blow away normal monsters, or a Lo rune for Deadly Strike.

`Insolence` 2004-04-16 11:08 PM

4x 40/15 max would be your best bet in the wep, try to get a ton of FHR ( don't remember if the build supplies any )

HandOfHeaven 2004-04-16 11:12 PM

Actually I would go with 2 40/10 MIN, and 2 40/15 Max now that I think about it. I would rather have certain damage rather than chance damage, although you have 5 chances to get the highest damage in a zeal.

Vollstrecker 2004-04-16 11:26 PM

The Caddy has a good min/max ratio to begin with. I would go with ED%/Max jewels over ED%/Min.

`Insolence`: The full set grants 30% FHR. If he's rolling Bloodfist, that's 60%, which isn't bad (5FPA Recovery). If he wants a 4FPA recovery, he could put on a few charms (86% is next breakpoint).

celaron 2004-04-17 08:22 AM

my only ladder char IS a gris-pala!
ias is not makis NO dfference!!!

ur attackSpeed can not be faster, u need 120(or 130, i forgot it) to get into the next frame rate!!!

i thought thats silly... 5 hits/sec is ok....(with 8k dmg hrhr)

--> 2 LO in weapon 1 JAH +ed/max
I needed a Um in the shild!! hmm, and I would give a Cham into it, so u can forget raven and use a buls with 5%ll

I socked the armor with 15+maxdmg juws (3 socks==> 3*30maxdmg^^)
about the rest i am not sure, and the 2 LO runes costed 2 much.. so I got poor...

u need a lot of maxdmg charms in ya inventory and the set rules everyone.

i only got 1k life, its ok!!!!

i use string with %dmg reduce.
draculs gloves, and WT for dmg!

2LO runes in weapon makes 40% double dmg!!!!
amu= highlords= 36% double dmg --> 76%
so i make 10,5k average dmg / hit!
i think its quite ok, regarding that the bug for zeal with double dmg COULD still work.
52500 dmg makes also baal dying soon!

and i got 4 available socks for free in my set (4 are left, i think thats better english for understanding...)

a anni rules for gris set, using fana and zeal

i think the only thing would be nice to increase the blockrate or speed of blocking, somehow...

i've got sooo much fun with my gay pala... hes a monster, but the 4 fcking dolls are killing me!, and the fcking iron maiden shit 2 ....

EDIT: I LOOKED IT UP SOME MONTH AGO; U NEED WITH FANA AND ZEAL... 120-130IAS FOR 4 frames / sec!!!!!!!
with 0-119ias u got 5 fps!...... (i forgot to metion!)

Titusfied 2004-04-17 09:39 AM

120-130 IAS for 4 FPS is not very hard to achieve. Some good suggestions up there though.

Vollstrecker 2004-04-17 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by celaron
ur attackSpeed can not be faster, u need 120(or 130, i forgot it) to get into the next frame rate!!!

You only need ~45% IAS to hit 4FPA with a base -10 weapon (Caddy) with a lvl 19-20 Fanaticism. I don't know where the hell you got 120% IAS...
http://www.diabloii.net/characters/p...ias-zeal.shtml
Maybe you're thinking for a base 20 weapon...


The +max damage in your armor does you little good, as it adds to your OVERALL max damage, not your max weapon damage.

celaron 2004-04-17 10:37 AM

OMG
ur right!!!!

40 ias and u got next frame lvl!!!!!!!!

more than 40 is not possible (u will not get into the next frame lvl gg)

i looked it up: u need 37ias exactly!

--> then i will sock 3 ias jewls into another armor....
fck, a 26maxdmg jewel was in the armor, but i do not want to sock helmet and shild now...

thx !!!!!
that will make 6.2 attacks/sec for my pala --> i'll edit the new dmg^^

Vollstrecker 2004-04-17 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by celaron
that will make 6.2 attacks/sec for my pala --> i'll edit the new dmg^^

Um, Zeal only does 5 attacks, ergo, you're still only truly getting 5FPA (As it takes us slow humans a few frames to re-click Zeal).

The bonus for being 4FPA, is that it will help overcome block rates.

celaron 2004-04-18 01:20 AM

? hold ya klick for multiple hits ?
? use alt and shift for playing ?

the 5 hits from zeal, are not really 1 sec, ur faster, so if u're standing in front of baal, and hold ya mouse klicked on him (attacking) you will hit him 6.2/sec
so in a sec you do 1 complete zeal attack, and the secondone starts and hits once(from 5) and the 2nd hit starts......

however, i need some maxdmg charms now into my inventory....

Vollstrecker 2004-04-18 01:27 AM

Even if you hold it, it takes the game longer than 4 frames to restart the Zeal sequence. Just watch him when he does it.

Also, max damage charms really aren't worth it anymore. If you have 10x +14 max dmg GC's and 10x +3 max dmg SC's, you're only adding 170 max damage to your final damage. I'd rather have something more useful.

`Insolence` 2004-04-18 01:49 AM

170 max damage * about 700 or so ED... adds up?

1200 dmg by my count, that is a LOT of damage ;)

celaron 2004-04-18 03:54 AM

3 max dmg--> 38dmg finally (i tested it ^^)
so 170 maxdmg would add finally 2153.3333 maxdmg^^
thats 1+k average dmg/hit !!!

zeal+fana+ed stuff makes for me more than 1k%ed =)
(dmg from sc's*12,66!!!!)

hm, and if there are some nice @'s on the charm, like +skills (kk than maxdmg would be the @)
or str!!!!!! than u even got more dmg, or life or whatever....

so i think it's worth.... ;but just my thought;


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