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D3V 2004-05-26 10:44 PM

2004 Election
 
Personally, I would vote for John Kerry. Personally I can't stand bush, his brother is the 'leader' of our state, and he has done such a shitty job with the funds he has been given. Bush sucks. John Kerry seems to be aganist this pointless war, thats why I would vote for him?

Kuja`s #1 2004-05-27 05:32 AM

If you want a serious topic about them and their stands on certain issues, DON'T POST IT IN THE CHAT FORUM!!!!

Acer 2004-05-27 03:45 PM

Ill be 18 in august so I can vote... but I wont. If I did, I would pick Kerry, I dont like him nor bush, but I have to pick one.

MightyJoe 2004-05-27 03:57 PM

Yeah I turned 18 in april and I will be voting for Bush because I can't stand Kerry. He goes back and forth on all the issues.

KagomJack 2004-05-27 05:42 PM

Yeah...if I could vote, it would be for Bush. Kerry is 2 faced and won't stick with the issue long enough. He'll go "Yeah...I'm against this." and a month later he'll go "I'm for it!"

He also got medals and is waving them around now. However, when he first received them, he threw them out and started an anti-war campaign. He really is an ass. Also, I had talked to a senior (who has now graduated :() and he said that Kerry's economic plan would be very bad. He even said Ben Stein (actor and wealthy man) said that it would be bad. He had taken a course on economics and studied politics.

Titusfied 2004-05-27 05:59 PM

I'm hittin' up Bush. Kerry is trying to please everyone...

uncapped 2004-05-27 07:32 PM

We need that guy from 24 to run for Pres. That would be great.

Anyways, I pick Kerry, simply because I'm from Mass and it really isn't too fucked up, so he must doing something right.

Penny_Bags 2004-05-27 07:40 PM

Yeah, I'd go Bush, a mass policy change in war time is bad.

Demosthenes 2004-05-27 09:10 PM

If I could vote, I'd vote Kerry. Then again, I'd vote for Pumba from the Lion King over Bush.

Sovereign 2004-05-27 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
I don't trust Kerry, I hate Bush.

Ralph Nader is the perfect american.

Stoned, doesn't give a shit.

My kind of guy. ^_^

D3V 2004-05-27 11:40 PM

I would vote for that other John,... fuckin I forgot his last name, but he was like 30 somethin years old.

badboy 2004-05-28 01:01 AM

Personally I think you people need to get off your crack. John Kerry is an opportunist, pure and simple. John Kerry has opposed almost ever major defense authorization and program during his years in the White House. He oppossed : B-1 bomber, B-2 stealth bomber, AH-64 Apache, F-15, F-14A, F-14D fighter jets, AV-8B Harrier jet, Aegis air-defense cruiser, Trident missle system. Furthermore he : voted to cut back the M1 Abrams tank, Bradley Fighting Vehicle, the Tomahawk cruise missile and the F-16. Voted to cut more than $3 billion from defense in 1991 and shift the money to social programs. Voted to cut $6 billion from defense in 1992, Republicans and Democrats alike were against Kerry. Opposed a military pay raise in 1993. Introduced a plan in 1993 to cut the number of Navy submarines and their crews, reduce tactical fighter wings in the Air Force, terminate the Navy's coastal mine-hunting ship progam, force the retirement of 60,000 members of the armed forces in one year, and reduce the number of light infantry units in the Army to one. The plan was DOA. Voted to freeze defense spending in 1995 for seven years, cutting more than $34 billion from defense. Introduced a bill in 1996 to cut Defense Department funding by $6.5 billion. Kerry had NO Sponsors from ANYONE. Voted yes on a fiscal 1996 budget resolution that would have frozen defense spending for the next 7 years and transferred the $34.8 billion in savings to social programs. It was rejected. Kerry says he favors missle defense now but : he voted no on the Defend America Act of 1996. He voted no on the American Missle Protection Act of 1998, but voted yes on the Cochran-Inouye National Missle Defense Act of 1999. He opposed funding Patriot Missile System. In 1994 he proposed to cut $1 billion from intelligence. In 1995, the senator voted to cut $80 million from the FBI's budget and introduced a bill that would have reduced the intelligence budget by $1.5 billion by 2000.

Kerry has opposed all attempts to ban gruesome partial-birth abortions. He voted to allow federal taxpayer funding of abortions and to provide abortion clinics. Though he claims to be a Catholic, if elected president he would would appoint only pro-abortion judges.

1989-90 voted against tax cut in capital gains. 1993-94 voted against an amendment to reduce spending by $94 billion. Voted for the largest tax increase in history. 1995-96 voted against bipartisan plan to balance the budget in seven years. 1997-98 voted against approving a GOP budget to cut spending and taxes. Voted against a balanced-budget constitutional amendment. 1999-2000 voted against reducing federal taxes by $792 billion over 10 years. 2001 voted against Bush's tax relief, a $1.35 trillion package to reduce income-tax rates, alleviate the marriage penalty and gradually repeal the estate tax. Voted to reduce Bush's proposal by $448 billion over 10 years. In April 2002, Kerry flip-flopped by calling for a tax cut even larger than the one passed in 2001.

Demosthenes 2004-05-28 07:47 AM

Like I said, Pumba over Bush. If Kerry is Bush's opponent, then I'm all for him.

zagggon 2004-05-28 08:56 AM

Bush most definatly, Kerry is just gona raise the taxes.

Chruser 2004-05-28 09:10 AM

Kerry, obviously. While he may not have his goals as straight as Walker himself, he isn't the same war-crazed lunatic. Yes, Bush is better for the US economy in the long run, as it is heavily based on war to make its wheels turn, but give me a break, collateral damage for profit? If Bush remains president, I, for some reason, foresee invasions of Iran and North Korea; the latter if capitalism can't take its toll soon enough on the nation.

Who said the cold war was over because Soviet "lost"?

zagggon 2004-05-28 09:28 AM

Chruser whats wrong with invading a country that starves there people and has slave work camps like NK?

Thanatos 2004-05-28 09:34 AM

Bush all the way.

Chruser 2004-05-28 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagggon
Chruser whats wrong with invading a country that starves there people and has slave work camps like NK?

Collateral damage. Militia renegades and revolts. Making the people revolt is more efficient. Treat it like DDR, not like Iraq. Kennedy was a genius unlike Bush.

zagggon 2004-05-28 09:42 AM

Chruser NK has an army of 1 million all of which are loyal to Kim, what do you think would happen to a weak little peasant rebelion supported by the US?

Demosthenes 2004-05-28 11:03 AM

Someone please explain to me on what basis would we use to justify our foray into North Korea?


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