Which better for me in PvP?
 

Ok im really new to teh dueling scene but im looking to get a start. Im thinking of trying a WW Barb or a Zealadin. HOWEVER, both of these chars are far beyond anything i have in terms of items (for leet setups neway) so i looked around at guides and think I may have enough to make a poor mans version of either (for now, practicing until i get rich :haha: ) so guys like endurack etc, advice plz. Like if there are even cheaper items i can get that would b better, let me no. Here's wat i got for each:

Zealadin-
helm- shako/gaze
armour- valour/stone/temps might(non eth :( )/carapace(non eth too :( )/enigma/g angel/gbane/shaftstop
gloves- bloodfist ^_^ /soul drainer
belt- vendungos (1 is eth)/perf string/tgods
boots- sandstorm/waters/gores
rings- ravens/angelics/wisp/soj/dual leechers
ammy- maras/cats eye/angelic
shield- hoz/stormshield
wep1- eth bstar./griz caddy(3 sock)
wep2- cta/demon limb
charms- some random AR/life/fhr/frw/resist and anni

OR

WW Barb
helm- gaze/shako/arreats(39% ed jewl'd)
armour- stone/valour/enigma/ carapace/gbane/shaftstop
gloves- bloodfist/soul drainer
belt- vendungos/tgods
boots- aldur/gores
rings- angelic/sojs/wisp/raven/dual leechers
amulet- maras/cats eye/viper torc (duped rare +2 barb skill with some other mods)
shield- stormshield
wep1- gf
wep2- 2xechoing throwing spears/demon limb
charms- 10+ skillers (1xwc w/ 35 life) and random AR/life/fhr/frw/resist and anni

so there. This is nl useast. I dont really know how effective either of these would be. Any advice on what to do with em is helpful.

Im adding items as i find them too

Use amazon with ethereal wf and chaosplate enigma

plz dont spam my thread

Use the ww barb, replace gloves with dracs, get arachnid mesh for fcr and 2 fcr rings against casters for the 37% fcr breakpoint, since your on east soul spurs would make great boots against casters, and get a second weapon as a beast zerker/cs + gf (i recommend ebotd zerker in the future) for dual wielding against casters, and for charms try to get 3/20/20s or if your rich and bitch about being "legit" get 10max/ar/life gcs or 3 max/ar/life scs.

Oh, and two um'd wizspikes works very well too against casters...thats how I beat ai-pkgodz, the so called "l33tist necro on west"

Oh yeah, one more thing, if your not rich enough for 3/20s get mastery gcs with life for now, use highlords for an ammy, and use 2 240+ar/20 dex ravens or 2 10 fcr cast rings for the ring part, dual leechers are shit nowadays because...leech is shit.

omg no use hoz/ss u use Exile it good :D

Only advantage to exile is that fucking noob piece of shit lifetap, and high ass defense, a regular hoz is better in the long run...unless you plan to use a pally in pubs then use exile.

Please use the edit button, and refrain from posting several posts in a row concerning the same thing.

Please forgive me as it was a mistake, and refrain from posting obvious shit that has nothing to do with the fucking topic.

OMG!

Am I dreaming Rei finally posted something intelligent!
This deserves a celebration. :D

Anyways, I agree on the exile comment, it's no good and HoZ is better, but for melee wouldn't Alma Negra be better?

hmmmm dunno. how hard is alma negra to get? remember i've got a tight budget ^_^

And rei now that ur FINALLY posting something intelligent, explain to me how fast cast rate (im assuming thats the fcr u used) helps my barb? Is it for casting ww faster? :confused: doesnt make much sense to me :weird:

PS Im now a member wOOt!!! :D

Against 125fcr bone necs or sorcs fcr helps so that you can tele faster and short ww and with the 37 fcr bp you can tele at 10fpa, against necs stand still
while you watch their bone spells fly right past you, then when they are about to tele namelock (or just tele beside them) and move your mouse to the center of the screen and do short ww's, against sorcs don't use namelock but rather teleport in front of them; meaning memorize their tele patterns (most of them teleport in a circular pattern so when they are say at 180 degrees and they are teleporting clockwise teleport your barb to lets say...200 degrees and just ww in place so that they will teleport into your ww). Against defensive fireball sorcs I recommend getting two um'd wizspikes and just chasing after them because good fball sorcs tend to never ever get on your screen for a namelock (or the degree teleport trick which is useful for lightning, orb, or blizz sorcs but not for fball). That 10fpa tele makes a huge difference because casters will be very surprised by your teleport speed 90% of the time and you will catch them off guard. And in the future get a 2 ber'd coa in conjunction with a botd (or gf in your case) + a beast cs or zerker+ dungos+ enigma against wind druids because of the mechanics of ww, dual wielding will get you more damage and more hits rather than using stormshield+weapon. Use the same setup vs. a v/t and ww away, and when they switch to foh just namelock tele and short whirl, and if they decide to desynch charge away just teleport away from him and hide behind a corner since foh can't cut through corners.

Oh and about the alma negra, since your on east I would say a good one (2 skills/60+ar/60+damage) is 3-4 high runes...I'm not really sure but the prices on east are inflated compared to the prices on west.

EDIT: Forgot one more thing, alma negra may be better for melee because of the high smite damage, but I would say an HoZ (or an upp'd one) is much better in the long run because of the +to skills and the 40 stats, not to mention the resists.


Shit I fucked up on the editing, my bad.

Alma Negra is an unpopular item on east, pretty much anything can get you a good one, on east that is.

use the edit button u nub :shame: :flipper: :shame: :bitch:

EDIT: Testing

Actual EDIT: shit...

Since when did FinalRei begin speaking in halfway comprehendible English?

for all you ignorant people, finalrei was bringing a laugh into these oh so serious forums. anyone who didnt laugh at his posts dont have a sense of humor. but if you dont kno, finalrei is old school, he has taught me alot, although i do own him as much as i do, he can still beat a handful of people that flame him. GET A SENSE OF HUMOR!