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Vollstrecker 2004-12-21 07:51 PM

Fear is borked...
 
Me and another Warlock guildmate just tested Fear in some duels, and the result is that Fear is pretty borked.

The maximum length we saw it last with DoT's applied was 8 seconds, and that was once (Fear, Rank 2 [15 seconds]). 8 seconds is roughly 2 applications of DoT's, and after the first time, they barely moved anywhere before it broke.

I'm thinking my Warlock is about to be turned into a Mule and Tradeskills horse.

ask_rabber 2004-12-22 07:31 AM

Because god forbid any melee class have half a chance from fighting a warlock.

iceman887 2004-12-22 07:37 AM

what about rogues, can't they kick the warlock and that stops them for 5 secs basically and maybe you could kill them

Vollstrecker 2004-12-22 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ask_rabber
Because god forbid any melee class have half a chance from fighting a warlock.

You don't understand. That was all we had. Mages have more tricks to get away from people/mobs, the only other thing Warlocks had for kiting was Curse of Exhaustion (which isn't that great, plus we have no other speed buff to maximize its use, like a Hunter has Conc Shot/Wing Clip + Cheetah).

Curse of Exhaustion you had to dump 25 or so Talents in the Affliction tree to get it, and it still only slowed to 70%. It's just not good enough.

Warlocks operate mainly upon Attrition, with their DoT's (hell, if you're using Curse of Exhaustion, you have to sacrifice using one of your major DoTs to even use Curse of Exhaustion). That means we don't deal large amounts of damage in bursts, it accrues slowly over time.

Having 'Fear' buy you maybe 8 seconds (2 DoT applications), you might have done 100 damage with DoT's (Level 35 skills), and maybe another 300 with Shadow Bolts before you're in our face hammering our poor, Cloth-ridden asses into the dirt.

Grav 2004-12-22 12:39 PM

Make a melee-specced warlock.

They have fire stones, obviously that's what wl's were meant to do.

kockblocker1 2004-12-22 12:48 PM

Because lord knows that there were MASS Warlocks abusing every other class in the game. Jesus Christ that fuckin blows huge brontosaurus balls. Let me see if I can make a D2 analogy to explain the situation a little better.

It seems like everyone is murdering muthafuckers with hammerdin builds. Hammerdins builds are 5 out of the top 10 level characters on the ladder (probably not accurate on this but you get the point). The build is so dominant that you seriously cannot join a game with more than 2 players and 1 not be a hammerdin. Meanwhile the highest-level druid on the ladder is ranked 40th overall and 12 levels from the top spot. Those fucking Druids are too powerfulÂ… NERF. End of story.

Grav 2004-12-22 12:52 PM

What's this about Hammerdins..? Is it a D2 joke?

Anyway, WL were the only class I could -never- beat unless they were out of mana. We'll see how it goes..

Vollstrecker 2004-12-22 01:01 PM

Oh, it's going okay for me.

But then, I'm rerolling a Mage. My Warlock is now a level 35 Tailor/Enchanter mule.

We'll see if they do something to help Warlocks.

Grav 2004-12-22 04:03 PM

Don't jump from one gimped class to another. Try a hunter, they are teh pwnschizzle.

kockblocker1 2004-12-22 05:22 PM

Yep. I would say go hunter or maybe a pally, though with the pally you will endup being nerf fodder faster.

Grav 2004-12-22 05:31 PM

But he's horde!

zagggon 2004-12-22 06:01 PM

If your a horde hunter your always going to be second bested by a NE hunter everytime due to NE's higher amount of agility...

Grav 2004-12-22 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagggon
If your a horde hunter your always going to be second bested by a NE hunter everytime due to NE's higher amount of agility...

LOL NEVER TALK AGAIN.

Fuck, I think I broke something laughing.

ask_rabber 2004-12-22 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagggon
If your a horde hunter your always going to be second bested by a NE hunter everytime due to NE's higher amount of agility...

Trying your hand at comedy, I see. So far, so good.

Slim 2004-12-22 08:30 PM

Are you dense? The 1-2 extra agility points given by racial traits is NOTHING. It is fucking pointless to even put it there.

Vollstrecker 2004-12-22 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
Don't jump from one gimped class to another. Try a hunter, they are teh pwnschizzle.

Eh, I have a Hunter and a Mage, equivalent level so far. I'll see what I like better, but the Mage is pretty fun thus far.

What is broken aside from the Arcane Missle bug? I know Blink doesn't break Root effects, but that should be fixed next patch...

Not going Alliance, so no Pally. I don't really wanna jump on the Rogue bandwagon. I'm basically debating Hunter or Mage.

Slim 2004-12-22 10:43 PM

Seems everyone and their cousin is a rogue these days, one reason I gave mine up. I'm also liking mage quite a bit, despite the things that need fixing (have since retail) I can still PvP effectively.


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