raziel i dont want u 2 take me the wrong way. I'm not trying to convince ne1 here to being atheist or nething and im not saying ne1 is wrong here...in fact i would like to turn into a believer because i would be able 2 have something 2 fall back on in hard times but it's kind of har 2 believe in the matrix-like thing u had stated earlier or that nething can exist outside time or space. I'm sorry it's just the way i am. If it doesn't make logical sense than i have a hard time believing it. I', not trying 2 say nething against ne1s beliefs so plz dont take me the wrong way.