Grim said:
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Taming is, far and away, the easiest way to make money on this server. It's so much faster and easier than any other method
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You forget the days and days of no stop training it takes to train taming...
Grim said:
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that it's creating a problem: everyone who wants money has to make a tamer.
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And take the risk of being killed by player killers.
Grim said:
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Dexers can't even begin to compare with tamers in PvM. Doesn't matter if they're 7x GM with a silver vanq weapon
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This is complete bull, I have tested and I know for a fact dexters can kill LLs very easy if they know what they are doing.
Grim said:
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hunting liches and lich lords: they can't even come close to the amount of money that tamers make.
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Maybe they can't make it as fast, but they sure can make it.
Grim said:
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Even if you COULD use Energy Vortex, they are pretty weak. They seem to do about 15 damage per hit and don't poison.
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You have to take in mind the impack that would cause on PVP.
Grim said:
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That argument doesn't apply to Bards, which is a PvM oriented class, and yet they are also left in the dust by almighty tamers.
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A bard can make as quite a good living if he hunts th right spots.
Grim said:
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You can't leave the screen to find more monsters, because all bardic skills stop working if you break line of sight.
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This I might be changed so it won't break when the bard leaves LOS, so it is more like the way it was before powerscrolls.
Grim said:
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And of course, you can't provoke strong monsters onto weak monsters, because you can never find them in the same area. I dreamed of luring a demon into an area filled with earth elementals and wreaking havok, but alas, it just doesn't happen.
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There are a few places one can do this.
Grim said:
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On the other hand, tamers have access to 2 extremely powerful pets that they can command to attack any creatures in the game, including lesser ones that they can slaughter in seconds, to make money rediculously fast.
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Then along comes a player killer that camps and looks for tamers to kill and takes that money, kill their pets. Tamers by far have the most to lose when they play.
Risk = Reward?
Grim said:
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A blood elemental dies in seconds to a white wyrm and nightmare.
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They also die in seconds to a mage and a dexter that knows what they are doing.
Grim said:
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All of the dungeons seem to be severely tilted in favor of tamers.
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Notice the empty rooms in places for people to camp, notice that you can't gate to or from dungeons.
Grim said:
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I constantly find myself thinking how easy everything would be if I had a white wyrm and nightmare around. I could just slaughter everything in seconds with little to no risk to myself.
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Til that player killer runs up and kills you then your pet. Kill the tamer the the pets are useless, Also a tamer needs vet to keep their pet alive and healed...
Grim said:
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I always ask myself: WHY am I wasting my time GMing one of the hardest skills in the game, Provokation, when I could take the easy way out and make a tamer?
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Tamers are not fast to make at all they are on the anti macro code like a few other skills, bard skills aren't on the anti macro code and are fast to make.
Grim said:
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Modify the loot/spawn times of mid- and mid-high level creatures like liches and lich lords, so that an efficient warrior using a strong magic weapon can make a decent amount of money over time off of them, when compared to tamers.
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I feel that this is nearly perfect a it is, some spawns might need to be tweaked out some but that is about it.
Grim said:
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Create areas where bards will be able to hunt efficiently, to put them on par with tamers in PvM. I've yet to find a place where I haven't had to drag monsters all over the place just to try to provoke them on one another.
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There are at least two places outdoors where lichs and lich lords can easily be provked together without much luring.
Grim said:
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Also consider allowing bardic skills (or at least provokation) to remain in effect while the bard leaves the screen.
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A good point there.
Grim said:
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Let bards effect some of the tougher monsters. Is it fair that WWs can kill vampires in seconds, but they're completely immune to all bardic skills?
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There are highend monsters bards can provoke, in fact I added a new one in with the last map patch.
Grim said:
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Is it fair that a WW + mare + tamer with vet can take on bosses that a bard can't even effect?
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Yes it is.
Ask yourself this, is it fair that some monster do 4x damage to tame pets?
Yes it is. Every class has it speciality