i think you misunder stood the tournament kaneda. It was a tournament in a local gym meaning not on xbox live. I think they could have had a very solid chance of either winning it or getting second. But i suppose it would depend on the fourth non clan member as well as how well the players would be able to adapt to playing split screen.

and mark you lose clan matches because you guys do not work together well or have strategies. Not everyone uses stand by you have to just chalk some death and misfortunes to lag.