Raziel said:
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Plus, it's an opportunity to debate. You know me enough to know that I'm gonna jump at the chance when it's provided.
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Oh, I know that, which is
exactly why I decided to interject with my 2 cents and get in on the fun! So, here we go:
Raziel said:
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It's not the same thing, Titus. The videogames industry was in a state of steep decline as a result of Atari's buffoonery. Developers were making nothing back on their games, hardware sales were slumping and the general public consensus was that console videogames would be dead in a few short years if the industry continued to progress in that manner.
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That isnt entirely true. The video game industry was not in a steep decline directly because of Ataris weak attempts to make better games, there were numerous reasons behind the sales slumps. Aside from the shortage of quality games, there was extremely aggressive marketing of cheaper home computers, combined with an overall weak economy during the mid-80s. Like any introduction of a new and improved technology, there will be relapses in old technology, hence Ataris sales dropping significantly. Now couple this with a poor economy and you suddenly get the claim that Atari royally screwed up the video gaming industry and Nintendo revitalized it. Truth is, it was a matter of various outside constraints that caused this thinking to arise.
Raziel said:
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Along came Nintendo, they started making creative games that were worth the buyer's 80 bucks, and they revived an industry that was on the brink of collapse. Sony isn't in the same boat. They joined the race as the entire industry was picking up steam. Granted, Sony one-upped Nintendo by turning the videogames industry from a nerdy hobby into a genuine multimedia threat, however the industry was in no danger of dying when Sony did so. It's not the same thing.
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Again, this can be directly correlated to the computer industry. I know we are talking about consoles, but in essence, they should be included in this argument. During the time when Atari was floundering around, computer prices became extremely cheaper, and gave consumers the option to connect to a TV, which obviously offered better quality graphics, color, and sound. It was because of this insurgent of quality to the gaming industry, that Atari became sloppy and started releasing potentially
huge hits way too early, and it showed in the final product. Perfect example was the E.T. game that was released and sold terribly.
Now, I cant argue that Nintendo didnt up the bar in the console gaming industry, but that wasnt because Atari sucked and Nintendo was God. Nintendo simply saw what had happened to Atari because of computers introducing much higher quality, and like any good business, they adapted and evolved their platform to be competitive. If anyone is going to get the credit for saving the console gaming industry, it
has to be home computers. Then again, they were also more than half the downfall for the slump in the console gaming industry.
Raziel said:
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I've said nothing about Microsoft or Sony's games that can't be applied to Nintendo as well. The fact is, I merely leveled the playing field. The complaint from S2 AM was that Nintendo just rehashes old crap. The comment from SYG was that Nintendo simply rehashes old crap while Microsoft births nothing but sheer art at every turn. Both companies do their share of re-hashing and innovating. That was my whole point, which was so woefully taken out of context by S2.
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Now, I cant speak for S2 and SYG, but I think their thinking was that basically
all of Nintendos success is based off of their first generation gaming titles. I agree with you when you said, If it aint broke, dont fix it, but at the same token, it appears as though the old saying You cant teach and old dog new tricks applies to Nintendo as well. I mean, at least Halos success is based off an original idea based in the 21st century, and not some mid-1980s idea that was a hit. Microsoft, to me, seems to be able to keep coming up with great gaming ideas, while Nintendo is literally functioning on one leg, made up of Zelda and Metroid
At least that is the
only reason I bought and still own a Gamecube at the present moment. Online gaming was revolutionized by Microsoft, and their games just keep getting better and better. [/End of Microsoft Crusade]
