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USA B-ball Takes the Bronze..
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Posted 2004-08-28, 02:36 PM
Well, it's better than nothing. They played and defeated Lithuania 104-96, I believe, for the bronze medal in the Olympics. Far from what was expected, and always is expected out of our basketball team, but nonetheless, it's better than nothing...

This is the first time Lithuania didn't medal since they became an independent nation, BTW.
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Posted 2004-08-28, 02:50 PM in reply to Titusfied's post "USA B-ball Takes the Bronze.."
Titusfied said:
Well, it's better than nothing. They played and defeated Lithuania 104-96, I believe, for the bronze medal in the Olympics. Far from what was expected, and always is expected out of our basketball team, but nonetheless, it's better than nothing...

This is the first time Lithuania didn't medal since they became an independent nation, BTW.
I shouldn't have even clicked this. This has thrown me into a furious rage all over again.
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Posted 2004-08-28, 03:09 PM in reply to Titusfied's post "USA B-ball Takes the Bronze.."
Sucks. At least they got SOMETHING.
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Posted 2004-08-28, 03:38 PM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "Sucks. At least they got SOMETHING."
We have like 95ish medals already. Yea, it is better than nothing.
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Posted 2004-08-28, 07:04 PM in reply to tokill.ace's post starting "We have like 95ish medals already. Yea,..."
It sucks, but it is about time. American style basketball sucks. It is too slow and tedious. International rules are much more competitive, fierce, fast, and harder to play. The other nations have figured this out, and now can finally beat us. Our playrs don't suck, it is just that everyone else has become much better at playing a sport that was invented in our own country. Next Olympics, we'll have outside shooting and a better understanding of the game. We'll be the champs again.
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Posted 2004-08-28, 07:57 PM in reply to EvilLeprechaun's post starting "It sucks, but it is about time...."
EvilLeprechaun said:
It sucks, but it is about time. American style basketball sucks. It is too slow and tedious. International rules are much more competitive, fierce, fast, and harder to play. The other nations have figured this out, and now can finally beat us. Our playrs don't suck, it is just that everyone else has become much better at playing a sport that was invented in our own country. Next Olympics, we'll have outside shooting and a better understanding of the game. We'll be the champs again.
I think our style is actually much faster than international basketball. What do you mean by "slow and tedious?"
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Posted 2004-08-28, 09:29 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I think our style is actually much..."
Yeah, the USA players are MUCH quicker and explosive than the International bitches.

In the NBA when somebody stands in your way during a layup, its a defensive foul, in international play if they stand there, it's charging. The USA players are more of an inside-game , and not as much perimiter shooting, and less slashing.

And everyone hates the USA these past years (thanks go G.W.B.) so the Officiating isn't on our sides.














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Posted 2004-08-28, 09:51 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Yeah, the USA players are MUCH quicker..."
And besides, the internationl lane is fucked up and slanted...What's up with that?
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Posted 2004-08-29, 12:07 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "And besides, the internationl lane is..."
I am just saying that the NBA has become more of defense, defense, and defense. There isn't as much as flash anymore. Not like the Showtime Lakers of the 80's. And, NBA teams will hold the ball forever and walk upcourt. International play, they rn back and forth al the time. High scoring games are what people want to see. Not games that are won by 20 points and the score is like 86-66. (See last years National Champs)
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Posted 2004-08-29, 10:35 AM in reply to EvilLeprechaun's post starting "I am just saying that the NBA has..."
Wtf you talking about? The NBA is anything but defense. Did you see the Mavs vs. Kings game last season(atleast I think it was last season)? The Mavs scored 80 or so points by halftime while the Kings scored like 68. That's pure offense. The NBA is about 80% offense and 20% defense.

Watch the All-Star games, nobody cares about defense - it's all about the points.
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Posted 2004-08-29, 10:45 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "Wtf you talking about? The NBA is..."
The international games are just played so much more fats paced. NBA games, a person is likely to see the ball in the hand of a player for most of the night. I know they want to control the ball, but come on. That is how other countries were able to beat us. We try to slow down the tempo of the game too much. Other countries can run circles around us.
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Posted 2004-08-29, 10:48 AM in reply to EvilLeprechaun's post starting "The international games are just played..."
Seriously, our players are a lot faster than any other teams. We killed them in fast break points and such. The international pace is quite a bit slower than NBA. I don't know what happend this year, but just look back at the last few olympics. We were kickin ass because we just purely outscored them. 120 ppg in 40 minute games. This year was just fucked.

And I agree that the NBA has slowed down some. It wasn't too long ago where you'd find at least a couple of 140 point games in a season. They don't do that anymore, but the pace of the NBA game is still a lot faster than international ball.
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Posted 2004-08-29, 11:28 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Seriously, our players are a lot faster..."
I agree. NBA is much more fast paced than international ball and if you want a lot of ppg, watch the Western conference. Don't expect it from the East. =\
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Posted 2004-08-29, 12:14 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "I agree. NBA is much more fast paced..."
I kind of chuckled when I saw this on TV. Don't know why.

Who got Glorious Gold and Sociable Silver, since USA got Shameful Bronze.
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Posted 2004-08-29, 12:17 PM in reply to Jamesadin's post starting "I kind of chuckled when I saw this on..."
Italy got silver and Argentina got gold.

Puh-fucking-thetic.
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Posted 2004-08-30, 01:17 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Italy got silver and Argentina got..."
How is it pathetic? They played excellent ball. The U.S. still obliterated everyone in the medal count, but just because we didn't win everything doesn't mean we're pathetic.
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Posted 2004-08-30, 01:34 PM in reply to EvilLeprechaun's post starting "How is it pathetic? They played..."
I would rather of had the US menÂ’s basketball not win any metal. I don't really know if a bronze is a big enough wakeup call. I hope it is, but I just don't really know.

Anything other than ZERO losses in Olympic basketball for team USA is UNACCEPTABLE. Gold should have been a given. The star NBA players and the selection committee fucked up and they need to start doing things correctly, start using their fucking heads. I donÂ’t blame the bronze on any of the players or coaches on the current team USA roster. They played their best and got what they deserved for the team they were dealt.
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Posted 2004-08-30, 02:00 PM in reply to EvilLeprechaun's post starting "How is it pathetic? They played..."
http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31983

That's why.

We're the US of fucking A. Anything less than gold is unacceptable, especially at basketball. Honestly, the only person I've retained respect for on that team is Dwayne Wade. Iverson used to be my favorite player that currently plays in the NBA. Not anymore.
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Posted 2004-08-30, 09:02 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?..."
Dwayne Wade? No way man. Tim Duncan still gets 100% of my respect. He was basically the only all-star that stepped up and played for his country. He played well.

Screw all the rookies, screw Carlos Boozer, screw Shawn Marion. We don't need these people on our Olypmic basketball team. We need Shaq, Kobe, T-Mac, Vinsanity, Jermaine O'Neal, KG, Paul Pierce and an effective 3-point shooter... say Reggie Miller or Brent Barry. Bah! I'm still mad.
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Posted 2004-08-30, 09:05 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "Dwayne Wade? No way man. Tim Duncan..."
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Dwayne Wade? No way man. Tim Duncan still gets 100% of my respect. He was basically the only all-star that stepped up and played for his country. He played well.

Screw all the rookies, screw Carlos Boozer, screw Shawn Marion. We don't need these people on our Olypmic basketball team. We need Shaq, Kobe, T-Mac, Vinsanity, Jermaine O'Neal, KG, Paul Pierce and an effective 3-point shooter... say Reggie Miller or Brent Barry. Bah! I'm still mad.
Well, I suppose Tim Duncan still reatins 90-95% of my respect. He worked. I've lost some respect for his game though. I had overestimated him.
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