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Posted 2003-12-21, 08:04 AM in reply to Raziel's post "Quarter-Finals! Magus vs. Raziel"
Raziel said:
Either way, the barrier wouldn't defend against Raziel's spells because they're not mana-based, they're soul-based. There's a difference.
I would be highly obliged if you'd explain the entire theory of mana to me. If there is more than one theory, please explain them all. If there is no link between mana and any spiritual existance, then I will accept what you have said. However, the two seem very similar to me.

Kuja said:
Magus is very evasive too. Tossing Magus a little here and there wouldnt do damage to Magus. It would just be annoying a little.

Magus could stand still and get a beating and it would still not harm him much. Hell, the strongest Sword in Chrono Trigger (rainbow) is merly more then a scratcher on a critical hit and in here he got an armor even better and wear an helmet that is the strongest in the game to the exeption of ozzy pants that is cursed. Being said that Raziel wouldnt be able to harm Magus and the Zombie would probably not be able to do more then smell bad! There is no way Raziel can win. Magus could also equip a Prism Specs accessories making his physical damage do 50% more damages. (As if he wasnt already strong enought )
1. Aye, Magus is the most evasive character in Chrono Trigger by far.

2. I don't believe Magus would have the benefit of any accessory besides one specifically for him. It tends to fall into the same category as the Final Fantasy rule. I would say he could use a Gold Stud (75% MP Reduce to Cast), but very few others . However, this is just my view of it. In an earlier battle, I mentioned that he could have physical damage reduction from a safe helm, but that was only if he was able to equip it. I never recieved a response to this statement.

Because of this, I would assume that Magus has access to the following.

Armor: Gloom Cape, RavenArmor
Helm: OzziePants, Gloom Helm (Protection from Status Effects)
Accessories: Gold Stud (75%mp reduction), Magic Ring (+6 Magic), Flea Vest (+12 Magic Defense)

I say the Magic Ring for the same reason I say Gold Stud. Magus is the primary spellcasting force of the game. If anyone is suited for these items, it is him. Also, the Flea Vest is open to him because of the same reason OzziePants is open to him. Flea and Slash are Ozzie's... uh... bitches, and... well, if you've played the game, you'll know. Otherwise, just let it be.





Anyhow, after much deliberation, I would voice my thoughts on the barrier issue. I believe that the barrier would work against magic not seen in Chrono Trigger. The argument that it would not work because of a lack of existance (disregarding the nature of the barrier, I might add) of the type of spell is purely speculative. My thoughts, however, have some backing.

Magus is not the type of being to have some magic spells. He is adept in all forms of magic with dark magic as a specialty. If there was a character in the game who used Earth magic, then Magus would be adept in Earth magic as well. His barrier would guard against Earth magic. If Raziel were in Chrono Trigger, and he could use different categories of magic, then Magus would be able to cast those different categories of magic, and his barrier would work against those as well. Magus is only limited to the spells he possesses by the bounds of the game. If set in a larger, outside-the-game, atmosphere, he would be much more diverse in his magic abilities.

Therefore, I would have to believe that, even though he does not have access to other forms of magic in-game, his barrier would be effective against all forms of magic.



Uncle said:
One Mooore Thing!!
I will also agree with Kuja on the issue of the barrier's dissapearance. Magus discards his barrier to cast the spell only because he decides to change his strategy. (This is, note, during a battle against three heroes, not one. So there is no reason for his current strategy to follow any previous ones.) He does not need to have high hit points in order to keep his barrier up. On the contrary actually, there is not one characater in Chrono Trigger that becomes weaker as hit points are depleted. Either the character becomes stronger (through spellcasting) or they are not effected. Because of this, I would not believe that Magus loses his barrier for any reason other than he chose to discard it.
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