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Posted 2004-02-24, 11:49 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "I meant weak compared to raziel. Look..."
Well, it's like I said. It comes down to Raziel's ability to use physical attacks. Get in close and Kuja is done for. I'll post more later. Got to get to class.
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Posted 2004-02-24, 04:26 PM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post starting "Well, it's like I said. It comes down ..."
I'm just wondering where all of you live ( those of you who post between 1200-700 AM CST). Raziel seems immune to damage. I will state again, he will kill Kuja.
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Posted 2004-02-24, 05:48 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "I'm just wondering where all of you..."
read again....

Raziel said:
*WEAKNESSES* - In all honesty...none. Physical attacks and magical attacks will harm him, but he has no glaring weaknesses.
They do affect him. Just not like they would affect any other mortal. Kuja is no mere mortal either. He can levitate, and shoot little energy thingies from his hands when in trance.
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Posted 2004-02-24, 06:24 PM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "read again.... They do affect..."
Little energy thingies? WTF? You mean like Ultima?



Okay, listen.

Kuja WAS able to withstand Bahamut's attack, but in all fairness, Bahamut isn't that powerful. If Kuja could withstand an attack like that, Raziel probably could. Though HP is alot different than just a health meter.


He could scale the wall and quickly climb up to where the dragon is, let of a Force Projectile and even though he would fall, his wings could lessen the damage.

Also, he could switch to

Kuja has many powers. Magical ones that are very effective. But, Raziel's attacks could be too numerous, it wouldn't give Kuja the time he needs to fire. If this was a pure magic-to-magic battle, Kuja could win. It's just, his physical atributes are greater than Kuja's. Run quickly, use an occasional attack, get in close and either claws ora Rever attack.

Kuja might be able to avoid him if the dragon took him high up, but even then, the Silver Dragon could not evade Force Glyph or Sound Glyph for long.

He could switch to Spectral Realm. He could now run through walls, whereas the Silver Dragon must waste time moving all around to avoid running into the walls. Also, telekenis could come into play. He could break aprt stuff and then just throw it at the dragon.

Then there's the health issue is on Raziel's side. Kuja must find time, like all his other attacks, to cure himself. Raziel can switch to Spectral and his health is instantly restored.

I'm guessing Raziel is a slow, methodic person, not emotional and impulsive. This mean he would contemplate his moves. Though not much strategy is needed.


*Raziel point out flaws. I don't want Raziel to win merely because I am the only one posting a significent arguement.*
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Posted 2004-02-24, 06:31 PM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post starting "Little energy thingies? WTF? You mean..."
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Then there's the health issue is on Raziel's side. Kuja must find time, like all his other attacks, to cure himself. Raziel can switch to Spectral and his health is instantly restored.
If i remember correctly, raziel brought this up in a previous battle. Raziel LOSES when forced to go into the spectral realm. So flying through walls and regenerating hp instantaiously wont happen.
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Posted 2004-02-24, 06:53 PM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "If i remember correctly, raziel brought..."
Well, Raziel says he can do it at will. Besides, he wouldn't need to do this, because he wouldn't get hurt. So I've got a tiny battle plan.


Raziel stared at the bizarre looking man, atop a mgnificently sliver beast. A shame to bloody this beautiful creature, but no matter.

"It begins. The tragec story of a freak. And that's the end. Mwa ha ha ha!" Kuja said, sneering.

Raziel launched a projectile at Kuja. The dragon flew upwards to avoid it. It blow chunks out of the wall behind Kuja. All the large stone pieces flew at Kuja. He didn't notice(it is behind him afterall and he's concentrating on Raziel) them.

"AH!!!" he yelled.

The dragon instinctively turn tail and fled. Raziel pursued it. He let lose a Fire Glyph. The giant flames flew at the dragon. It heard the flames and began showing it's aerobatic skills. Unfortuanately, it still wasn't fast enough. Hurt, it flew lower.

Raziel climbed the wall and let lose with another Force Projectile.ound, wounded but not dead. Kuja had flown off the beast just in time.

Raziel using his wings slowed his fall. He walked over to the beast and with on quck strike of the Fire Reaver, it's life is brought to a sudden end.

Kuja was ready. He used Flare Star. The balls of energy exploded on his body. He was staggered but he still had the Fire Glyph. He launched a Fire Force Projectile at Kuja. He burst flew to the left and avoided it.

Too bad for Kuja that Raziel was using TK again. The giant stone piece was jagged and flew into Kuja like a knife. He groaned. He floated to the floor and removed the stone piece. All this time, Raziel had switched to the Water Reaver. He calmly walked to the ice sculpture that was Kuja. He slowly switched to the Earth Reaver.

With one quick motion, he brought it down on Kuja's head. One of the following things occured, because I don't know what happens to Raziel's frozen victims when he hits them.

A) He exploded into pieces.
B) He unfroze and fell to the ground dead with a deep dent in his head.

RAZIEL WINS
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Posted 2004-02-24, 11:36 PM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "If i remember correctly, raziel brought..."
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If i remember correctly, raziel brought this up in a previous battle. Raziel LOSES when forced to go into the spectral realm. So flying through walls and regenerating hp instantaiously wont happen.
Raziel loses when forced to go into Spectral. He can go in of his own free will and still continue the fight. Not allowing him to use his Spectral Shift at all would be like not allowing Mega Man to use his gun arm.
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Posted 2004-02-24, 11:58 PM in reply to Raziel's post starting "Raziel loses when forced to go into..."
Kind of what I said. He can do it at will.
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