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Posted 2004-03-09, 11:03 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post starting "[A VERY interesting arguement..."
It'd be interesting to see how the spectral realm looks in a place like this.

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Posted 2004-03-09, 11:23 AM in reply to RoboticSilence's post starting "It'd be interesting to see how the..."
I have a question. When Raziel returns to the material realm, can he choose where to return, or is it preditermined by his former location based upon (or not) his movement in the spectral realm?

If he has the ability to choose where he returns, then he is at a major advantage, as he has the ability to teleport for all practical purposes. If he does not have the ability, then he either returns where he shifted or to a translation of where he shifted based upon his movement. In either situation, I would have to question whether or not his phyical location would be the same.

Example:
They are fighting on a tower. Raziel shifts to heal. He comes back without the ability to choose where he goes. (Either he is in the same place, or he is say... 10 feet forward, as he decided to walk 10 feet forward in the spectral realm.) Is he still on top of the tower, or does he have the same X,Y,Z coordinates as before? If the setting has shifted to a moon of Saturn, is Raziel 30 feet from Samus as he was before?

I would find it hard to believe that he would still be standing on the tower that may have never existed in the first place, but these are not my laws of physics...
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Posted 2004-03-10, 07:00 AM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "I have a question. When Raziel returns..."
No, Bob, Raziel requires the use of a "shift point" in the Spectral Realm in order to shift back into the Material Realm. He can shift into Spectral whenever and wherever he wants, but shifting out of the Spectral Realm requires a shift point.

So, he can essentially teleport, it's just that he'll always teleport to the same place.

Oh, and considering that time doesn't exist in the Spectral Realm, no, the arena could not shift while he was in Spectral. To his opponent, his shift to and from Spectral is instantaneous.
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Posted 2004-03-10, 08:06 AM in reply to Raziel's post starting "No, Bob, Raziel requires the use of a..."
Ah! I forgot about that. Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me.

Well, I'm going to put my vote on Raziel. I don't have a lot of time to explain why now, but I'll put some thought into it if I have time today and get back to it later.

(I wish Magus were still here. He would pwn Samus.)
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Posted 2004-03-15, 08:22 AM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Ah! I forgot about that. Okay, thanks..."
Well, being that Raziel is a mainly melee based fighter, he would have an extremely hard time winning against a mainly long-range attacking foe, as Samus is considered with her arsenal of firepower. Raziel can shift all he wants, but it will only take Samus 2 or 3 times max to realize that when he comes back, he will always be in the same place. Bang bang, dead.

Raziel's glyphs are way too weak to do any real damage to Samus, and as stated in earlier fights it would merely stun her, if it actually landed... Even so, Samus could always screw attack when they are approaching, hence neglecting their entire premise since only extreme power attacks can halt a screw attack, as was established many a times in earlier rounds.

I honestly don't see how Samus could possibly lose this one. Raziel is strong, but his constraints will prove too insurmountable in this battle. He needs broader attacking abilities to pull out a win, which from what little I know about him, he simply doesn't have.
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Posted 2004-03-15, 11:07 PM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "Well, being that Raziel is a mainly..."
Well, the whole Screw Attack could possibly be negated by Raziel's TK abilities. Remember, enemies are more susceptible to TK when they're already airborne. If she tries to stay in Screw Attack, all he has to do is pull her back down towards him.

On top of that, I have a genuine concern as to whether or not Samus' Power Armor would absorb the damage from Raziel's Wraith Blade at all. Her ability to take damage is not based on the strength of the metal, but on the strength of her energy shields that surround the armor. When her shields run out of power, she's dead. The actual metallic composition of the armor can't withstand attacks after the shields dissipate. With that said, Raziel has shown the ability to attack through energy-based barriers in both Soul Reaver 2 and Defiance, and as such, the wraith blade might be capable of cutting through her shields.

But, then again, that's entirely speculative, and only based on a few examples from the games. Either way, it's a possible flaw in Samus' defenses.
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Posted 2004-04-20, 11:23 AM in reply to Raziel's post starting "Well, the whole Screw Attack could..."
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Arg, I can't stop myself...

It could be argued that Samus' armor is semi-magical in nature because of the creatures that built it. The Chozo were the most highly advanced species in the universe, and that includes both magical and technological aspects. They were famous for having learned how to impeccably meld together super-advanced technologies and super-intricate magic. The Power Armor that Samus wears was considered to be their greatest single achievement by many.

The theory is supported by the fact that she has an unlimited supply of power for the suit, never needing to recharge and never needing to re-supply her arm cannon's beam weapons. She also has the ability to recharge her shields, missile ammo and Power Bomb count by absorbing the life-energy left behind by fallen enemies, which could only really be magical in function.

Either way, if you asked me, I'd say her armor is half-magic, half-tech.

I think your exact quote should suffice enough to show she can with stand attacks from Raziel's Wraithe Blade. Again, I still think this comes down to fighting styles, and IMO, Samus has Raziel outmatched.
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