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Posted 2005-02-12, 02:02 AM in reply to WetWired's post starting "Yes, mj, I was being sarcastic. The..."
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Yes, mj, I was being sarcastic. The last part reffered to hiring Titus.

Some of you seem to mistake the role of admin. The role of an admin on this board is to be an admin on the board, to manage rules, help out members and mods, etc; not to code. While I appreciate the offers of help, I am afraid that it wouldn't be very useful. From vB2, we've seen that just applying whatever random hack looks cool ultimately does more harm than good; we ended up with a 6 month old board because if we upgraded, there was no telling what would work and what would not nor what we would notice right away and what would go unnoticed for a long time. Sure, I could easily just install all the hacks you guys ask for, but I'd rather test them and inspect them first, and consider their risks and merits. Also, it is important to have one person with all the information to retain the state of the code from version to version. Right now, I am waiting for Chruser to grab the latest version of vB for me so that I can install it; I can say with certainty that I have everything I need to easily apply all the current hacks to it, because I am managing that information better now.
I have a very usefull tool.
It's called Araxis Merge, and with that software, you can compare 2 PHP files, and make the edits if necisairy.(sp?)
With this, you can upgrade a fully hacked board in just 30 minutes.
You can get a free demo, search download.com for it

You might already know this program though, heh.

If you want, I can set you up with the files needed for the upgrade, as Chrusher probably will need to pay another 30$ or something for the upgrade files, as you guys own a neverending license, and your members area has probably expired oO.

Upgrading from vB3 to vB4 (when it comes out) will always be a pain in the ass, even without any hacks installed.
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Posted 2005-02-12, 10:38 AM in reply to Death's post starting "I have a very usefull tool. It's..."
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As I said before, a "private" hack team would be cool, not only for the fact that we would code hacks for Zelaron, but it's also educational for the other members.
Whilst reading through all of this, this is the one idea that really caught my eye.

I think its a great idea. It also gives people the chance to become "Trainee Admins" if you will, and learn how to code properly etc.

If it is put into action, and the coding team do teach how to code, then I'll sign up straight away, and if I wasn't a member, I'd register, even if just for it.
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Posted 2005-02-12, 11:41 AM in reply to Lenny's post starting "Whilst reading through all of this,..."
That means alot of responsibilitys though, people having to be on at certain times, having to teach someone anything is difficult I'd imagine especially coding, and doing it over the internet would make it a bit more difficult since typing can get...confussing at times.
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Posted 2005-02-12, 11:46 AM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "That means alot of responsibilitys..."
Not even by posting tutorials???

Or even a special coding forum...with it's own Mod. who knows coding etc???

Have a look at the RPG2K3 forum...something like that but for coding...

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A little idea of my own...

I've just posted some news on the PS3, and thought: 'This would be so much better if there was a PS3 forum to post this news in, rather than the PS2 forum'.

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Posted 2005-02-12, 12:09 PM in reply to Lenny's post starting "Not even by posting tutorials??? Or..."
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Or even a special coding forum...with it's own Mod. who knows coding etc???
We have a coding forum...
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Posted 2005-02-12, 12:38 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "We have a coding forum..."
mjordan2nd said:
We have a coding forum...
So we do...my bad...haven't used it...or looked at it for a long time...so...
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Posted 2005-02-12, 12:49 PM in reply to Lenny's post starting "Not even by posting tutorials??? Or..."
Lenny said:
I've just posted some news on the PS3, and thought: 'This would be so much better if there was a PS3 forum to post this news in, rather than the PS2 forum'.
It might be better to wait for a forum, until the console actually comes out, since it will have hardly any activity. But I'm sure they will make one when it does.
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Posted 2005-02-12, 01:16 PM in reply to Lenny's post starting "Whilst reading through all of this,..."
Thanks .

I didn't really mean learning as in learning 1 to 1 on IM, but more like posting tutorials, and stuff.(like you said)

Also, there is some pretty good Web Conference software out there, so maybe once every 4 weeks or so the coding mods can hold a little conference, teaching some of the newer people.

Also, the members can learn from the code itself.
It will require clear coding, and basicly explaining most of the stuff you do with a comment line (which I normally do, because my Co-Admin isn't that intelligent, but hey, he pays the bills ).

I'll make a thread about this in the coding section, though.

EDIT: Here's the thread: http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthr...306#post488306

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