Evolution shouldn't be taught in schools if creationism isn't allowed

I think lenny has many good points and so dose ~jesus~. I also think that some of the stuff that they both say as well are worng and dont match up or work, but as I said that they do bring across good points. Thats what I think, and I dont fell like typeing alot like every one else right now to get what I think across.

You know what I do fell like typeing more so here I go. Evolution offers no real purpose for life, it results in an absence of meaning, and therefore an absence of moral absolutes. This is clearly in conflict with the Bible. Evolution results in a philosophy of nihilism (the denial of any basis for truth), which ultimately ends in despair. The Bible claims to have the Truth, which gives ultimate hope. (John 14:6, Colossians 1:27) The Bible not only fits the evidence of scientific investigation, it provides an answer for why the world was created. Evolution does neither.

It doesn't matter if what is observable by humans does not match up with fiction writen by humans.

It doesn't matter if what is observable by humans does not match up with fiction writen by humans.

Right.... and the bible has stood the test of time. Do some research, they found Noahs ark exactly where they said it would be. They found the remains of Sodom and Gommorah and the Tower of Bable and thousands of sites, remains of ancient cities and tombs just where the bible stated they would be. They even found the egyption chariots at the bottom of the red sea! Every person place and thing is varified to be accurate so far...the Bible says his word would survive the test of time.

Check out the book of Job. It is the Oldest book in the bible. God ask Job over 50 questions, many that explain things science has just verified in the last 50 years! things about the wind, sun, electricity, and nature of animals.

Back in those days, prophets of God were few and far between. If one thing you said was found false the penalty was death.

The Bible is the inspired word of God. 66 books written over 3,500 years by 44 authors. 100% accurate. no other book makes such claimes. Except the Koran which is a cruel hoax coppied from the biblw (poorley I might add, and not accurate) allmost 2,000 years after the first books of the bible were written and 600 years after Christ, by a pedephile that has continuiously changed. In fact, there are nearly 30,000 verified original manuscripts which we get our bible from. No other great ancient works that exist today from the past can even come close to making that claim. Homer, socretes..or any others. our entire society is based on the laws and rules of the bible for a reason!

Lets say hypothetically, there IS a creator and he made us in his image like the bible says, and we are observably complex and advanced in ways of knowledge compared to other life forms we see and observe. Lets just say he wants to get a message to his children. How would he do it so it would be the most benifical to that objective? Lets just say that, as the case may be, this message is VERY COMPLEX and is a needed set of guidlines for his children to live and function. The message would need to be sent over a period of time, piece by piece to overcome hostile jamming.

If this is for debates sake true, well then how amazingly fortunate are we to have this available in this day and age!

Do some research

Stop fucking saying that! You don't yourself. The majority of your posts have been copied and pasted from some Christian site.

Except the Koran which is a cruel hoax coppied from the biblw (poorley I might add, and not accurate) allmost 2,000 years after the first books of the bible were written and 600 years after Christ, by a pedephile that has continuiously changed.

Smoothly put.

If you want to go on about the age of religions, then I'm sorry to say that Christianity has absolutely nothing on Hinduism.

One is 2,000 years old, the other can be traced back around 1.7million years.

http://www.gitamrta.org/religion.htm
http://www.gitamrta.org/bridge.htm

Oh look, I can prove that legends are true. I must be a Holy Book!

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found Noahs ark exactly where they said it would be.

Sure, "Do some research".

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a001.html

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Ooooh! You got something right. Sodom and Gomorrah HAVE been discovered. But was it The Lord who burnt them?

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a007.html

Nah.

I have also proved that I can link to Christian sites. Do I get a medal?

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The Bible doesn't only contradict itself in various cases, but half the supposed acts that happen cannot possibly happen.

Let's take Noah's ark, for example.

First things first - the guy was 600 y/o! Maybe the air was that little bit less polluted back then, but the human body cannot live for 600 years.

So, he took a pair, or seven, of every species on the planet onto a giant ark when it rained for 40 days and 40 nights and flooded 'the entire world'.

Second point - there is not enough water on the world flood it, nor for it to rain contiuously for 40 days and 40 nights.

Third - EVERY species? Superman wasn't involved here, was he?

That'd have to be a massive construction, just for the animals, but then we come on to the other points:

1. The animals must eat
2. What about all the waste

Where did all the food for the animals come from? Or did they not eat for weeks?

And then there's the animal waste problem. Billions of animals, on one tiny ark, all crapping. Noah would need an army to deal with that waste, he, his 3 sons and their wives could not deal with it alone. So with all that waste, there'd be a lot of disease, which would lead to a lot of death.

So, let's say be some heavenly miracle, he did manage to make it to Mount Ararat. And the waters subside, all this magical water disappearing back to where it came from, and the animals all come off the ark. In the middle of Turkey. On a bloody great mountain.

- How do they get off the mountain?
- How do they make it back to their home countries - float on debris?
- And if they do make the exodus home, why is there not a line of offspring following them?
- Surely after this flood, ALL animals would originate in Turkey, so the records must show a lot of animal speices in Turkey at this day, or at least a lot of bones from animals who did live there.

The stories are flawed. Sure, there's a few good morals, and some things are a great laugh, but they are NOT Historical.

The Bible is a metaphor. One is supposed to read it and learn the lessons, not believe every word.

Mm, remember watching a show about how when surveying the mountain where the ark supposedly was they caught site of a large object that could have been a boat. However, on a subsequent sweep they couldn't find it again or some shit because the snows shifted. That would be awesome if they found it though ...that'd probably be about the most important archeological discovery to man. I really doubt it's there but hey, if it was that'd be cool too, right? :P

If you want to go on about the age of religions, then I'm sorry to say that Christianity has absolutely nothing on Hinduism. One is 2,000 years old, the other can be traced back around 1.7million years.

Million years huh? 1.7 to be exact? lol

Again im not talking about religion.

..and actually Hinduism is idol worship brought to india by the assyrians around 500 years before christ and 1500 years after the first books of the bible.

The assyrians conqured ancient Israel in this time too. As the bible says and predicts.

Hundreds of years later, they redefined it and put a caste system to put the people in bondage. Which has worked to this day.

Ooooh! You got something right. Sodom and Gomorrah HAVE been discovered. But was it The Lord who burnt them?

Yes. Its not like he manifested in the flesh and casted fireballs! lol

The Bible doesn't only contradict itself in various cases, but half the supposed acts that happen cannot possibly happen. Where and when? Name them... Let's take Noah's ark, for example. First things first - the guy was 600 y/o! Maybe the air was that little bit less polluted back then, but the human body cannot live for 600 years.

It was before the world wide flood. The earths atmosphere was completely different as the bible says.

So, he took a pair, or seven, of every species on the planet

NO. Every KIND. "KIND". Not every animal..God told hoim to bring the animal by there kind. A kind is nopt a species. for example. A wolf would be a "kind" of animal. He didnt have to get technical and bring those different sizes and shapes that make up further species if you want to call them.

onto a giant ark when it rained for 40 days and 40 nights and flooded 'the entire world'.

Legends of a world wide flood with survivors of one man and his family exist in nearly every ancient civilization all over the world, China, Hawaii, Mexican
Aztecs, exc...Look it up.

check this out...
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahs-ark.htm


Up to that point there was no rain, the grounds mists waterd the earth. It says that the fountains of the deep broke open, which in turn made it rain for 40 days and nights. Do you know what the fountains of the deep are?

Again, before the flood, the world was completely different.

Second point - there is not enough water on the world flood it, nor for it to rain contiuously for 40 days and 40 nights.

watch this movie...
http://www.thetaxpayerschannel.org/g...on/fonte23.mov

See above and try actually READING the bible.

Third - EVERY species?

No. Just the BASIC KINDS of animals as the bible says.

That'd have to be a massive construction, just for the animals, but then we come on to the other points:

It was, the bible says that it was allmost 500 feet long and 50 feet high. which is exactly what they found...

1. The animals must eat

what if you brought babies and or eggs?

2. What about all the waste

what about it?

Where did all the food for the animals come from? Or did they not eat for weeks?

oh they ate allright, Im assuming. and Noah had 60 years to plan this...and yes Im sure they didnt gorge themselves.

Billions of animals,

billions? where are you getting this information?

on one tiny ark, all crapping.

again eggs and babies dont make that much waste and it was a MASSIVE floating barge.

Noah would need an army to deal with that waste, he, his 3 sons and their wives could not deal with it alone.

Back then people lived alot longer then now, imagine how intelligent he must have been. Im sure he would figure it out.

So with all that waste, there'd be a lot of disease, which would lead to a lot of death.

no. Because there was not disease back then that we know of. ...also, its only for 2 months.

So, let's say be some heavenly miracle, he did manage to make it to Mount Ararat. And the waters subside, all this magical water disappearing back to where it came from,

It took a couple weeks, made lakes and different bodies of water.

and the animals all come off the ark. In the middle of Turkey. On a bloody great mountain. - How do they get off the mountain?

it wasnt ON the mountain, it was at the base.

- How do they make it back to their home countries - float on debris?

home countries?

- And if they do make the exodus home, why is there not a line of offspring following them?

Im not following you... Line of offspring?

- Surely after this flood, ALL animals would originate in Turkey, so the records must show a lot of animal speices in Turkey at this day, or at least a lot of bones from animals who did live there.

I dont understand the point you are trying to make.

One is supposed to read it and learn the lessons, not believe every word.

Try reading EVERY WORD first before commenting.

And YOU try reading MY words before commenting. Look at the sites I've posted and read what they have to say. God know's I've put myself through the crap you've posted.

And please! Use the brain 'God gave you' and actually think about my points.

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The waste.
Hmmm, would you really want it there piling up? How would it be shovelled away, by 7 people. All those animals.

Billions of animals.
There are more species of insects in 10 square metres of soil, then humans in the world. Then there's loads of different animals. You want different "kinds" of animals? Count them all up, including the insects (birds, insects, mammals, reptiles) and you've got billions. The fish don't enter into it - they'll have been fine in the water.

The Disease
Of course there's disease! Oh, look, it's 2000 years ago. They can't have had disease, how stupid to think they did. How silly of me.

And "it's only 2 months"?! In two months, the great plague wiped out half of London. In "two months" the Black Death killed a sizeable chunk of Europe. In "two months" a host of fatal diseases could spread through the ark like wildfire and kill everything in it. With all the animals packed together, in awful conditions, with this waste 7 people can't so anything with up to their knees, a single virus (which multiplies millions of times inside one body) can infect every single animal.

Home Countries and Offspring
If the animals hadn't gone off to their native countries, then they would all be in Turkey still, no?

Animals also reproduce a lot quicker than humans. They'd be reproducing all the way home, so you'd see some kind of traceable line of animals out of Turkey.

One is 2,000 years old, the other can be traced back around 1.7million years.

I hate hearing all this RUBISH about 1.7million year ago or 56million years ago mumbo jumbo.The ONLY and I repeat ONLY knowladge about how truely aged this world may be is the studied records.I like asking professors where they got that goofy idea by stating, '' Do you have physical proof besides something you thought up and wrote down after going 30 hrs. without sleep.Did you actually go back in time and see the world 2 million years ago?"GIVE ME A BREAK!The oldest history book known to man that has been known to be 100% accurate in ALL areas of science is the BIBLE.If you don't believe this, go, study all the BIBLE and its science, go and see for yourself if it is accurate.Evolution is a mere stupid condradictory way of escape from the Truth.So is the Big Bang Theory.None of them are solid.Creation is as solid as it get's.Proven time and time again it has prevailed.However,if you whant to take my word for it, fine!If not,go study it for yourself.There's a book of one man who tried such a thing.the book is Case for Christ.If that isn't enough, I would encourage ANY and EVERYONE to watch Dr.Carl Baugh videos.He has been up against some of the top dog scientist of major colledges and completely pwned them and their foolish evolution big bangist ways.If you do not beleive me here, SEE IT FOR YOURSELF BY ACTUALLY TAKING YOUR PRESCIOUSE TIME OUT OF YOUr DAY AND WATCHING THE VIDEOS.Here is a PERFECT site with FREE video watching!
http://www.drdino.com/downloads.php
Thanks for your time.

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http://www.werewolves.org/~two/Rants/2rant-religion.mp3

I hate hearing all this RUBISH about 1.7million year ago or 56million years ago mumbo jumbo.The ONLY and I repeat ONLY knowladge about how truely aged this world may be is the studied records.I like asking professors where they got that goofy idea by stating, '' Do you have physical proof besides something you thought up and wrote down after going 30 hrs. without sleep.Did you actually go back in time and see the world 2 million years ago?"

*sigh* You've got to be kidding me. How old are you? Have you ever taken a chemistry class? Radioactive decay. The half-lives of certain elements, such as Carbon and Uranium-238, can be used for geological dating. You could conduct such experiments yourself to prove it, if you had any semblance of ability to think and act for yourself. I am not impressed by someone stumping some insignificant dumbass professors. Even the stupid manage to get into the educational system sometimes... as shown by the ridiculous and asinine concepts such as 'intelligent design'. "Give me a break."