do u like president bush?

Thats frustrating. Mjordan, you're totally right. Alot of people somehow manage to make connections to 9/11 and the Iraq war. It really shows the problem when people actually listen to the propaghanda which the American media spews out every day.

The world would be very different. The United States wouldn't be in this ridiculous conflict. The environmental policies wouldn't be such a joke. I imagine that the deficit wouldn't be at abyssmal as it is right now. Human rights would be honored.

Stuff like that. But I guess it's all pretty unimportant.

Hell, and I'm not even American. I can feel for you, though... we have a conservative douchebag in government.

The American media is mostly liberal.

The American media is mostly liberal.

The problem is that republicrats and democrans are just two sides of the same coin.

So, are we in Iraq to take out terrorists or are we now trying to convert their government? I thought we were killin terrorists...

Iraq was originally invaded as it was speculated that Saddam had ties with Al-Qaeda, and that he was secretly holding WMD (with, ironically, would have been sold to him buy George Bush Sr. to fight Iran).

It turned out that there were no WMD. And that there were no ties whatsoever with Saddam, or indeed any of the top officials in Iraq, and Al-Qaeda.

We were here to get back at Saddam for "Trying to kill my daddy" as well as a slew of reasons we probably don't know. But it sure as hell wasn't about terrorists, that was only the guise.

We were here to get back at Saddam for "Trying to kill my daddy" as well as a slew of reasons we probably don't know. But it sure as hell wasn't about terrorists, that was only the guise.

it was about the oil of course.

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The problem is that republicrats and democrans are just two sides of the same coin.

This is a very good point, the political climate in the US really does not cater to extremist on either sides, both parties are becoming in my views more closely linked with each election.

Anyways responding to some other shit in this great thread...

Al Gore would have been a horrible president, first off the man claims to have invented the internet among many of his other flaws... He was too focused on having the government help out each individual with any problems they might have had. If i remember correctly he was also pushing for health insurance for all, which I don't even want to get started on how bad that would have been for the economy and everyone involved.

Kerry as a president, may or may not have worked. Normal flip flopping comments don't need to be made, if you're interest you can see the real facts about him by looking at his voting record and understanding it. His main flaws I felt, were not separating himself enough from Bush. While he and Bush had some similar view points, he did not do enough to show what his plans were and how he would make an impact on the average person. (not sure if this is going to sound how it does in my head)

Also blaming Bush for the economy in a depression is fine, if you don't understand economics. If you do, you can see he inherited the depression, which was trigged by a number of issues that were seen late in the Clinton Administration, also Sept. 11 did not help to get the economy back on track.


As for going to war in Iraq, Gore would have not gone. With Kerry I'm fairly certain he would have at the very least allowed for air strikes into Iraq. Iraq was a very dangerous country at the time, while we have not found any WMD's its known that Saddam had chemical weapons and used them. I don't think I'm being naive, that he still had access to at the very least make them or get a hold of them.