Giants win Superbowl XLII

Yeah, K_A. Let the retards have their fun in peace.

Yes yes because most males actually like football. Way not to conform. You're so unique and original, Grav. You da coolest!!!

There's no issue with liking sports, especially if you play them. However, if you don't play, and you're a consumer culture zealot -- then you're a retard.

I generally draw the line on the second part when someone uses "we" and "our" to describe a team's actions.

I do play sports. I play basketball all the time, like yesterday. I'm such a badass I was double-teamed in a fucking pickup game. Who does that..

I generally draw the line on the second part when someone uses "we" and "our" to describe a team's actions.

That's pretty much my thoughts. Unless you work for your favorite team, or you're on your favorite team, you're not part of "we."

I've seen a lot of you fags saying stuff like "we traded X" or "we're doing good this season." Well, wake the fuck up and realize you're not part of the team, fag.

Man, fuck, I hated when we traded Cuttino and Francis for fucking McGrady. He didn't help us out one bit. We would have done way better with Francis, McGrady and Yao.

I don't like team sports in the first place, but let them say "We" or "Us" if they want - even if it is only to let them believe they do anything more than stare at a television. There isn't any harm done except that done to themselves.

The "harm" is far more insidious. America has an unhealthy sports obsession.


Sports are talked about constantly. Some people discuss nothing else. They would be better off reading a book. Sports also serve as a dangerous distraction for more pressing issues in the news.

Parents raise their kids from an early age to play sports, sometimes running these kids into the ground. There is a huge pressure for these kids to perform as their parents selfishly attempt to live vicariously through them.

Athletes (like celebrities) can unfairly get an advantage in the legal system because our country idolizes them. Here's an example of something disturbing to me: when Mark McGwire was questioned by Congress about steroid use, Congress basically treated him better than they would have treated the President 200 years ago.

College (and high school) athletes get numerous advantages over their peers. They are recruited for elite colleges, get athletic scholarships, stipends, and more. Some professors and proctors look the other way when athletes don't go to class at all, or blatantly cheat on tests. On my campus, one day there was absolutely nothing good to eat at the dining hall. There were steaks, but we weren't allowed to have any. "Those are for the football team."

Local and state governments pay for the construction of giant sports arenas.

There is a HUGE consumer culture behind sports, as if we weren't suckered into capitalism enough as it is. Jerseys, books, video games, toys, applicances, food, autographs, and anything else you can think of.

Athletes are generally looked up to by children, and they are not proving to be good role models. Of course there are a few good hearted athletes, but the good apples do not outweigh the bad. It also happens to be the bad ones that are shown the most in the media.


So, to summarize, being a sports apologist is a cowardly cop-out.

So?

That's all unwell and bad, but our culture, hell, our species, has been idolizing sports players as far back as Greece and Rome, and probably even farther back than then.

It's an aspect of society I wish wasn't there, as it provides an excuse for the unintelligent to reign dominant over those quite frankly more deserving of fame than them, ie people who use their brains.

A lot of people will argue that my view is unfair, but I really don't see why anyone would exalt someone to such extremes because they can run faster or jump higher than someone else. That shit doesn't matter.

To play a sport is good for your body and mind and all, but it's pro sports that really fuck up the point of it. These players make millions off of playing a fucking game.

I digress though, what I intended to say was that the human race is geared towards deifying the physically fit, and if people find it as a way to make money or find pleasure in forcing their children to live lives they didn't, oh well. It's like arguing against peeing.

"Goddamn, all these people making money off of toilet paper."

People will do it.

So? That's all unwell and bad, but our culture, hell, our species, has been idolizing sports players as far back as Greece and Rome, and probably even farther back than then. It's an aspect of society I wish wasn't there, as it provides an excuse for the unintelligent to reign dominant over those quite frankly more deserving of fame than them, ie people who use their brains. ... I digress though, what I intended to say was that the human race is geared towards deifying the physically fit

This directly contradicts your "humans can transcend their instincts" argument.

It doesn't seem like you're even disagreeing with me, so I don't see your point.

The "harm" is far more insidious. America has an unhealthy sports obsession. Sports are talked about constantly. Some people discuss nothing else. They would be better off reading a book. Sports also serve as a dangerous distraction for more pressing issues in the news. Parents raise their kids from an early age to play sports, sometimes running these kids into the ground. There is a huge pressure for these kids to perform as their parents selfishly attempt to live vicariously through them. Athletes (like celebrities) can unfairly get an advantage in the legal system because our country idolizes them. Here's an example of something disturbing to me: when Mark McGwire was questioned by Congress about steroid use, Congress basically treated him better than they would have treated the President 200 years ago. College (and high school) athletes get numerous advantages over their peers. They are recruited for elite colleges, get athletic scholarships, stipends, and more. Some professors and proctors look the other way when athletes don't go to class at all, or blatantly cheat on tests. On my campus, one day there was absolutely nothing good to eat at the dining hall. There were steaks, but we weren't allowed to have any. "Those are for the football team." Local and state governments pay for the construction of giant sports arenas. There is a HUGE consumer culture behind sports, as if we weren't suckered into capitalism enough as it is. Jerseys, books, video games, toys, applicances, food, autographs, and anything else you can think of. Athletes are generally looked up to by children, and they are not proving to be good role models. Of course there are a few good hearted athletes, but the good apples do not outweigh the bad. It also happens to be the bad ones that are shown the most in the media. So, to summarize, being a sports apologist is a cowardly cop-out.

Says the fat kid.

Oh, and:

Says the fat kid.

Match.

Hillarious.