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Posted 2008-03-18, 06:31 AM in reply to khwiii's post starting "While I am not unconditionally opposed..."
I agree with MJ. I think the whole "you can't kill, but if you do something horrible, we can kill you and it's okay" argument seems stupid to me. There are some circumstances of course that it could apply to be okay in my eyes, but this is not one of them.














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Posted 2008-03-18, 08:09 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "I agree with MJ. I think the whole "you..."
If you kill someone then you should be killed. An eye for an eye, I say.

I think this would drastically decrease the amount of murders out there.
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Posted 2008-03-18, 08:39 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "If you kill someone then you should be..."
That may be true, but you also have to rule in stuff like accidental murders, vehicular manslaughter, wreckless driving that casued a wreck which resulted in death. What if you kill somebody in self defense? There's millions of variables that makes it too complicated on either side.














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Posted 2008-03-18, 08:43 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "That may be true, but you also have to..."
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Posted 2008-03-18, 09:08 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "Hammurabi's Code is outdated..."
An eye for an eye just leaves the whole world blind.
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Posted 2008-03-18, 10:00 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "That may be true, but you also have to..."
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That may be true, but you also have to rule in stuff like accidental murders, vehicular manslaughter, wreckless driving that casued a wreck which resulted in death. What if you kill somebody in self defense? There's millions of variables that makes it too complicated on either side.
I'm talking about cold-blooded murder where it has been proven in the court of law. If you willingly take somebody's life, yours should be taken, too. How would that not decrease the amount of 1st and 2nd degree murders? If people know they will be lethally punished for murder, why would they go through with it in the first place?
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Posted 2008-03-18, 10:33 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "I'm talking about cold-blooded murder..."
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How would that not decrease the amount of 1st and 2nd degree murders? If people know they will be lethally punished for murder, why would they go through with it in the first place?
Couldn't you just give them life in jail, wouldn't that be the same decrease in Murders.














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Posted 2008-03-18, 10:36 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "Couldn't you just give them life in..."
There are so many technicalities and loopholes in the 'life in jail' sentence. Announcing that one will be lethally punished should he/she take a life is a much stronger stance than life in jail.
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Posted 2008-03-18, 10:40 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "There are so many technicalities and..."
I know what you're saying, and we're going to disagree and probably never change each others minds about it, I just feel that if you're going to outlaw murdering people, then don't by hypocritical in the judicial system by doing so as punishment. I think most inmates would agree that Life in jail (or multipule sentances of it) are worse than just being axed off.














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Posted 2008-03-19, 01:15 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "That may be true, but you also have to..."
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That may be true, but you also have to rule in stuff like accidental murders, vehicular manslaughter, wreckless driving that casued a wreck which resulted in death. What if you kill somebody in self defense? There's millions of variables that makes it too complicated on either side.
I agree. If someone was pointing a gun at my face and was about to kill me and I have a knife in my hand, I would stab him in my self defense. Afterwords, I would be killed for killing the man that would have killed me. Does that make any sense?
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Posted 2008-03-19, 03:29 PM in reply to Asamin's post starting "I agree. If someone was pointing a gun..."
Well no it does not make sense. You would not get the death penalty for self defense manslaughter, if it can be proven to be self defense you will not be in trouble at all. second you wouldn't stab anyone with a gun, you would simply be shot end of story.

Also, D3v there is no such thing as accidental murder, the legal definition of murder includes the word aforethought

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