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Posted 2003-01-12, 08:14 AM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
1. I can see anger with my sunglasses
2. There is no god - Have you even THOUGHT about it? EVER? How the hell could something exist that can control whatever it wants? There couldn't. The idea of god and religion was created to keep the masses in check, having them believe that if they behaved badly they would go to hell. Newsflash for you buddy! Once you die, you're dead. Period. There is no heaven, there is no hell, and how do I know that? Because I'm not a brainwashed lemming.
3. I look at this "Songs 4 Worship" infomercial and I get pissed because of all those people praising, who knows what, HOLY SOCKS and damn they're just sheep among sheep

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Posted 2003-01-12, 11:51 AM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
Do you want proof?? are you going to listen?? I mean really? you ppl are so fucking lazy it's terrible!!! judging from the looks of it Hell Hound you need no proof to believe in Satan or a Hell what proof do you have of this place??? I do believe in a Hell as well...but I believe that there is also a Heaven...am I judged wrong by you for believing in a Heaven...If you want proof AGAIN I say (you lazy ass bitches) to go and look in the Book of Revelations and look at the damn world today...now can we please stop saying the same fucking thing over again??? DAMN....

(Medieval Here)I answered your statement Hell Hound, in a previous post on the, get this, same page. And, Grav, you believe there is no afterlife because you are not "a lemming." So, in your constant effort to be different, you have decided to deny the existance of Heaven and Hell. I assume you are basing your opinion on the afterlife on common sense as you would likely put it; am I right? What little common sense you are blessed to have does not inform you, nor does it have any way to, upon any existance after death. You have not experienced death, nor have you any way to state that there can be nothing after it.
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Posted 2003-01-12, 12:29 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
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Do you want proof?? are you going to listen?? I mean really? you ppl are so fucking lazy it's terrible!!! judging from the looks of it Hell Hound you need no proof to believe in Satan or a Hell what proof do you have of this place??? I do believe in a Hell as well...but I believe that there is also a Heaven...am I judged wrong by you for believing in a Heaven...If you want proof AGAIN I say (you lazy ass bitches) to go and look in the Book of Revelations and look at the damn world today...now can we please stop saying the same fucking thing over again??? DAMN....

(Medieval Here)I answered your statement Hell Hound, in a previous post on the, get this, same page. And, Grav, you believe there is no afterlife because you are not "a lemming." So, in your constant effort to be different, you have decided to deny the existance of Heaven and Hell. I assume you are basing your opinion on the afterlife on common sense as you would likely put it; am I right? What little common sense you are blessed to have does not inform you, nor does it have any way to, upon any existance after death. You have not experienced death, nor have you any way to state that there can be nothing after it.

i 2nd that -_-
EDIT: oh, and pwned.

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Posted 2003-01-12, 01:38 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
I really think having sex is just a person's own opinion. If they don't want to, that is their choice. They would be missing out on tons of fun, though. ^.^ I am glad I started. I would have been missing so much fun.

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Posted 2003-01-12, 03:22 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
is "fun" the sole purpose of life?
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Posted 2003-01-12, 03:44 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
i din't say i believe in satan cuz i don't i b elive in nothing thier is no purpose in my own 2 eyes and the rest of my 5 senses thank you very much
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Posted 2003-01-13, 06:03 AM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
Heh, lets make a biblical thread in the Flame Forum, rather than continue this non-sense...

Please, I respect people's opinions, but if you are trying to prove something about a book in question, don't tell people to read something from it for their proof, that's just plain stupid...

Obviously, there has to be an explanation for how everyone/thing exists, and what better way to explain it? I'd like to hear/read something more accurate and precise than the Bible that goes into such detail and explanation.

Please Hell Hound, can you try to use caps at the beginnings of at least a few of your sentences? Not a flame, just a request, for I find it very difficult to read your posts, and honestly, I actually haven't gotten past a few sentences for that sole reason...
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Posted 2003-01-13, 06:29 AM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
There is no explination as to why God exists.

As for telling people to read from the Bible to begin to believe it, I can understand the reasons. First, there is nobody alive today who witnessed the things that happened in the Bible. That's why it was written down. Secondly, many of the people that argue about it have heard the wrong things, or have a bad understanding of the Bible in general. They completely distort ideas presented in the Bible, and, sometimes use their horrible interpretation to disrespect the Bible. *Cough* Hell Hound *Cough*
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Posted 2003-01-13, 07:16 AM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
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Posted 2003-01-13, 03:42 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
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Heh, lets make a biblical thread in the Flame Forum, rather than continue this non-sense...
Thats a great idea, we should have a religion forum...keep all this crap in one area.
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Posted 2003-01-13, 06:20 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
Some poeple are so hopelessly dependant on the bible that they would fight for it. *Cough* Medieval Bob *Cough*
Think of it like the matrix. I was a Catholic but i was freed. It could definatly be compaired to the Matrix. The perfect Metaform for the Bible could be the Matrix; a useless mind control device
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Posted 2003-01-13, 07:13 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
How do you get "hopelessly dependant" from me defending the word of God? I state that it is true and try to defend my statement.

You say the Bible is false and replied to all of my sayings. Does that make you hopelessly dependant on flaming the Bible?
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Posted 2003-01-13, 09:09 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
You ppl need to stop running away and making excuses...If the Bible holds no truths then why be afraid of a "simple"book...go ahead and pick it up...it won't bite...
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Posted 2003-01-14, 12:24 AM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
I've tried to read it... But...It's boring. And not, I'm not scared about it, I held huge debates with my theology teacher at my previous university about both, social & religious problems, so I'm not talking about something I don't know, it's just that I don't see the need of believing in a god that will do nothing for me and that will restrict my life, naw, i've enough with laws, the only restriction I accept is when my liberty diirectly attacks other people liberty.
God was just a explanation to all that things human never understood (beggining of life) and ended up by being a compensation to justify all the bad things happening


Oh, and, Bob when you replied me saying i could not prove God's non existence....Until there is a proof of it's existence it's officially unexistent!!! I could say I saw a bug throwing ray trough it arse and aiming them at rocks transform the rock into a living tree, write it down and... PROVE IT DOESN'T EXISTS!!! How can you know simpsons are fiction? maybe there's a simpson hiding in a cave somewhere on the world, PROVE SIMPSONS ARE MERE FICTION!!!
Bible it's just another story with moral as cinderella or any of the Grim Brothers....
That's all for now, I'm leaving to see if i can find God in my way to university, wish me good luck
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Posted 2003-01-14, 03:44 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
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Oh, and, Bob when you replied me saying i could not prove God's non existence....Until there is a proof of it's existence it's officially unexistent!!! I could say I saw a bug throwing ray trough it arse and aiming them at rocks transform the rock into a living tree, write it down and... PROVE IT DOESN'T EXISTS!!! How can you know simpsons are fiction? maybe there's a simpson hiding in a cave somewhere on the world, PROVE SIMPSONS ARE MERE FICTION!!!
Bible it's just another story with moral as cinderella or any of the Grim Brothers....
That's all for now, I'm leaving to see if i can find God in my way to university, wish me good luck
You're arguing with yourself. No, I cannot prove the Simpsons are mere fiction. Perhaps they exist. I also cannot prove that they are real. Perhaps they do not exist.

This is the same thing you are saying with the Bible. I cannot prove that it is true, but, on the other hand, you cannot prove that it is false.

Is this getting through to anyone? Just because I cannot show you proof does not mean it is false. You cannot prove to me that it is false.

Innocent until proven guilty. True until proven false.
Guilty until proven innocent. False until proven true.

Therefore, you cannot say, as you have already, (*shakes head*)
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Until there is a proof of it's existence it's officially unexistent!!!
There are many things that haven't been proved to exist, but since they haven't been proved to be nonexistent either, the status of their existance is, as you put it, "officially" undecided.
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Posted 2003-01-14, 03:56 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
and yes i have read the BIBLE it is a bunch of bull shit. it would fall under fiction in my libary. People that don't do something because a BIG book tells them not to are sad. O that books says not have sex... Ok lets not do it because the invisible man says not to.
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Posted 2003-01-14, 07:25 PM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
People learn things from books all the time. You've never read something influencing in your life? Oh, that's right. I don't suppose your literacy level would allow since, See Spot Run isn't that life influencing.

If no one can comment rationally to my previous post, then I consider this matter closed.
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Posted 2003-01-15, 04:16 AM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
Not true but consititering you sit around and pray to this piece of shit. It is like praying to a science that is full of shit and lies about everything and cannot prove that anything in it has happened. If god was real wouldn't he distroy owr towns with brimstone and fire ? every body sins lots of people don't care. according to the bible times like these are times for brimstone ash and fire. And to say anything about my literacy level is just fucking stupid on your part. If i couldn't read how the fuck would i be here and why am i a senor if i can't read think about it shit for brains
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Posted 2003-01-15, 05:51 AM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
I don't know how long it takes you to read these posts.

And, on topic, God doesn't destroy towns with fire and brimstone. He only allows humans to do it. He may do it because humans deserve it, or because humans refuse to believe in him. I cannot say the reason, because I do not kn,ow the will of god.

Oh, and you started your post with "Not true but" What exactly were you referring to that you deem not true? Some people have the worst habit of just making things up when they cannot comment upon a point.
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Posted 2003-01-15, 11:46 AM in reply to Hellmonkeys's post "Sex"
making things up?? as the guy who MADE up the bible¿??
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