Parents...

No one's parents are perfect, but if you can find that many flaws in your parents, I hate to say it, but I feel bad for you. Either that, or you just haven't realized their reasons for doing what they do yet.

Maybe you didn't read my post...

Everybody knows at least a few things about their parents that they would change, and since nobody wants flaws, it would be bad to grow up like parents.

No, perhaps you failed to read my post then. You said, and it is quoted up there, "it would be bad to grow up like parents." From that, I implied that you figured your parents have too many flaws, which I replied with what you quoted me on up there.

Get it now? No need for you and your woman to gang up on me, we, as in Bob and I, have a few disagreeing opinions, that's all, nothing more. Maybe our posts aren't fully depicting what we would like it to.

When I said it would be bad to grow up like parents, it followed the words, "since nobody wants flaws." A goal should always be at least near-perfect. I'm not saying it would be a horrible thing, but in the best of circumstances, and with the best possible outcome, I don't believe anyone would want to be just like their parents.

I can agree with that. Perfection is always strived for of course, but too bad it never happens. If at worst, you grew up to be your parents, I don't think it would be bad at all.

Agreement reached.

oh I wasn't meaning that one post to be against you...I honestly ment it towards Bob...he's Kinda stuborn towards some of the things his mom says...

To tell you the truth, I am kind of biased towards my dad, so I sometimes give my mom a hard time, even though I don't see or talk to her that much.

I feel bad though, so I try to take her out to dinner once or twice a month just so I can get some slone time to catch up with her. I still don't think that is enough though, but I can't really dedicate anymore time.

Yep... Cuz I'm so stubborn, I never let anybody win an argument. I'm a horrible person for it too.

i hate my parents , i hope they fuckin die and burn in hell. i always imagine if they did die and burn in hell how my life wou'd be A LOT better.

I hope you die and go to hell for saying such a thing.

You're terrible.

Yep... Cuz I'm so stubborn, I never let anybody win an argument. I'm a horrible person for it too.

pls stay on topic...this isn't about our personal life it's about how you feel you're parents will influence you're married life ty

looks like silver is winning this argument

You're terrible.

erm yeah, you are terrible for saying that. I have noticed that Bob always seems to want to win every arguement he gets into.

Warning: The following is a long post in which I will be going buck nuts about my family. (I hope that not EVERYONE blows this off. I just poured my most inner thoughts about my family into this, stuff I don't like to think about.)

My parents got divorced last year, I'm 15, both sisters just went to college in the past two years, and I have a five year old brother. So after seventeen years of arguing, my dad had a mid life crisis about a year after my brother was born, which I can plainly see was an "accident", which I hope he never realizes, and it pains me to say it. How can human life be an accident!??!?! But anyways, my dad had made my mom go out with him every night, the only way she did this was because fear of ending the marriage (she thought it would crush us kids, give me a break, we ALL saw it coming). They forced my oldest sister to be babysitting the kid nearly nonstop, which ruined her social life until senior year, when my mom kicked my dad out of the house. you know why? My mom heard my dad talking to his sister about how the girl he was just about cheating with (no sex). She went berserk and started slapping him a little, then through some small 4 pound weights at the wall. I was in my room, nearly in tears, building a LEGO toy I got for Christmas a few days earlier. Later I over heard my mom talking to my dad about how they would only stay married for the kids, that lasted for about 3 months. Divorce is a very evil thing. It shouldn't need to happen. A warning to all of you who are on the brink of starting adulthood, don't rush into marriage (strong warning for a 15 year old little kid i suppose).

Oh yeah, on a side note, during my dad's midlife crisis, which ruined my family's life, we moved out of my perfect neighborhood that I spent my childhood in, to about 20 minutes away, which was just enough to ruin my neighborhood life of backyard baseball, and late night games of basically anyhting the 10 of us kids in the neighborhood wanted to do. These days my dad is forcing me to work 5 days a week 8 hours a day, so I can buy a car, when my friends with much poorer familes (we are in no way poor) get FREE cars. Damn the system.

I have noticed that Bob always seems to want to win every arguement he gets into.

Why would anybody get into an argument with the intention of not winning? I'm sorry I'm stubborn, but that's one of my flaws. Some people are short. Some people are idiots. Some people are stubborn. That's just the way it is.

k all i raed was the words that popped out oh and if you knew my parents you'd want them to die and burn in hell too

Yep... Cuz I'm so stubborn, I never let anybody win an argument. I'm a horrible person for it too.

No, not horrible, just self-assure. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be right all the time, just when it comes to a relationship, you can't be. You have to swallow your pride. Even as I type this I am saying to myself, " You are one to be giving advise on soemthing you don't do well yourself" . SO no doubt it's not an easy thing to do.

That's good and all, and I appreciate the advice, but this isn't really something I'd like to discuss in public forums...

Although you should never go into an arguement with intents to win, you should also go into them with an open mind, ready to accept others opinions, even a mule could accomplish that. Errr, well maybe not literally, but it fit for the phrase, "You're as stubborn as a mule."

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k before that above post slowly turns this into a nother topic i'd like to apoligze for the apove post about my parents...my grammar was really bad

Well, Bob, to be honest, it's not exactly like I know what the arguement is about. For that matter, I don't even care what the arguement is about. I'm not saying your wrong at this time. I'm not saying you aren't always right. Just saying compromise is the ONLY way a relationship can work.

Sadly, my long post, like 99% of all the other long posts, got devoured. :Sigh: I guess it's bullshit posts from here on out... Maybe if I right the post, then cut it out into fourths and scatter it through the thread that would be better! lol jk