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Posted 2009-03-10, 02:32 PM in reply to Skurai's post starting "So, let me get this right... We..."
If you knew anything about what you are talking about you would realize that the states control the legality of marijuana/alcohol. Dipshit.














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Posted 2009-03-10, 06:47 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "If you knew anything about what you are..."
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If you knew anything about what you are talking about you would realize that the states control the legality of marijuana/alcohol. Dipshit.
so let me get this straight...

we get a Black president...
the states make Marijuana Legal...
didn't change my opinion at all, fanboy.
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Posted 2009-03-10, 11:58 PM in reply to Skurai's post starting "so let me get this straight... we..."
Yeah... the president doesn't have any say as far as ABC goes.. which is Alcoholic Beverage Control... in the way it should/needs to regulate it's product. It's all state managed. It follows the rules and regulations that the state sets. How is this relevant? Because this is the most likely form of regulation that marijuana will see. To many people it is considered the same as alcohol. Or porn. And as such, each state has it's own methods of controlling the distrubution and limits of consumption for each product.

Also, as I stated earlier, Marijuana is a 14 BILLION dollar a year industry. The state of California is in a 42 BILLION dollar deficit, yet we just got nailed with higher taxes. With simple cuts, and relocation of wasted funds, we could save 36 BILLION in 1 year. Guess what? That 14 BILLION all of a sudden looks pretty tempting... but of course California isn't going to make cuts, but that's a horse of a different color...
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Posted 2009-03-13, 11:20 PM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "Yeah... the president doesn't have any..."
Yea, the legalization of marijuana is estimated to bring in over $1 billion in tax revenue for California alone. That's a fraction of their budget shortfall, but it'll still give some much-needed revenue. I wish Kentucky would legalize casinoes. It would bring some tax revenues back home that's being given to neighboring states. I'm sure those states pay lobbyists to lobby against it here.
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Posted 2009-03-17, 12:01 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090313/us..."
I hate how they always throw in the opinions of some random Republican on a bible thumping rage.














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Posted 2009-03-18, 07:54 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "I hate how they always throw in the..."
So the contries become so Pathetically poor, it'll go against what half of it's time is spent to get rid of just for a good billion dollars?
All we have to do is stop using Gas, drink less soda, plant more Vegitables durring the summer and eat them when they're ready.
We could save money so much easier then people want to think....
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Posted 2009-04-03, 09:52 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "If you knew anything about what you are..."
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If you knew anything about what you are talking about you would realize that the states control the legality of marijuana/alcohol. Dipshit.
That's only half true. See Gonzales v. Raich.
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Posted 2009-04-03, 12:46 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "That's only half true. See Gonzales v...."
The case you posted does not change the fact of what i've already said.














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Posted 2009-04-03, 01:06 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "The case you posted does not change the..."
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The case you posted does not change the fact of what i've already said.
You said that states control legality of a drug. Presented alone, this is misleading. It is very possible for a drug to be legal under state law and illegal under national law. In this sense, states do not fully control the legality of drugs.
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Posted 2009-04-03, 02:04 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "You said that states control legality..."
Which is my point, if a state rules a drug legal, then it is legal in that state. The national law is a completely different venture, and the ways they are created/justified is by going off of state rulings, most of the time.














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Posted 2009-04-03, 04:23 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Which is my point, if a state rules a..."
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Which is my point, if a state rules a drug legal, then it is legal in that state. The national law is a completely different venture, and the ways they are created/justified is by going off of state rulings, most of the time.
Now it sounds like you're just pulling shit out of your ass. Seriously.

States aren't sovereign entities. Just because state law legalizes something doesn't make it legal, especially not drugs. Drugs have been under federal control for over a 100 years, and the case I referred you to confirmed it. Considering that I literally gave you the case name explicating the law I can't understand how you can't get that.

Anyway, this is an open and shut case, I'm not arguing this anymore. Reference to the case is up there somewhere in one of my previous posts... this is honestly just like beating my head into a wall. Peace Zel, I'm out,
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Posted 2009-05-19, 06:45 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Now it sounds like you're just pulling..."
And this is where MJ left... thanks alot D3V.
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Posted 2009-05-20, 07:10 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Now it sounds like you're just pulling..."
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Now it sounds like you're just pulling shit out of your ass. Seriously.

States aren't sovereign entities. Just because state law legalizes something doesn't make it legal, especially not drugs. Drugs have been under federal control for over a 100 years, and the case I referred you to confirmed it. Considering that I literally gave you the case name explicating the law I can't understand how you can't get that.

Anyway, this is an open and shut case, I'm not arguing this anymore. Reference to the case is up there somewhere in one of my previous posts... this is honestly just like beating my head into a wall. Peace Zel, I'm out,
You missed the point entirely, MJ.

If you would actually read my posts you would see that I am not, in fact, saying if states say something is legal then is must be legal. I know the Federal Law presides over everything and it is the final say in everything, hence the Supreme Court. You gave me the case, and that's fine, but it was straying away from the point. My point is that if one state can finally legalize marijuana, then other states will follow, and in turn the federal government will have to comply with the states or find some middle ground. All I am saying is that any progress is good progress, you just read too much into it. Get off your high horse.














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