Gonna take a *brake*

It's blatantly obvious you were talking to Penny and myself and the very least. Kickass, you're trying to take away mine another peoples rights to express ourselves so he can do the same, does that make any sense at all? FUCK NO.

What ? Right to express yourself? Where does that end? Flaming outside of the flame forum is expressing yourself so you should be able to do it? I already told you that it was ok to joke around sometimes but not to a point where you are forcing people to quit. Its that simple. There are rules for a reason. Just like real life, if you express yourself by saying things inappropriate you could end up in trouble for harassment or not abiding by a restraining order.

Are you stupid or....? I never said I was more important than anyone. I'm saying he annoys me, so I'm expressing that. Humans have that feature, you should try it out sometime.

See above response and see the ignore feature response.

Let's see....considering people have been banned sheerly for the fact that they annoy people, that makes about as much sense as your first statement. Errr, Penguin. You're setting a limit on "joking". You claim after a couple jokes, we're not joking about it anymore. You're essentially telling us what we're thinking.

Its called common sense. You know when you are no longer joking and when you are starting to really annoy people. You cannot HARASS people on Zelaron. You can joke around, you can flame them, but harassment is different and it wont be tolerated. All rules have a common sense clause attached.

I'm sorry I don't ignore my problems, I have a set of balls. You may want to invest in a pair sometime, they come in handy for issues such as this. The main reason eh? I'm pretty sure it's a good thing then, since it's going to get him out playing tennis and excercising, all in all making him a healthier person. What do you know, I'm actually helping him out!

You dont ignore your problems? Well guess what, I am telling you to ignore him and stop harrassing him. This isent a damn ego war, hes not fighting back, so you can shut the heck up, you are accomplishing NOTHING by going on. Ignore him, hes not talking about you. A "set of balls" makes you pick on people constantly untill they break down? and then you continue to laugh at them? Thats just being an asshole and has nothing to do with it.

Perfection is impossible to attain, there is no set definition for it. It varies form person to person, so why should I try to attain something that is impossible? I'm perfectly happy with myself right now, so that's how I'm staying. If you want me to change that, you're being no better than you are claiming we are.

You will try to follow the rules given to you. I am not asking you to change who you are, you can turn him on ignore. If I had the ability to ban you from seeing his posts I would. You can turn that on yourself.

Your point is complete bullshit, Penguin. You're telling us to change so he doesn't have to, which i previously stated.

I have again responded to Each of your points and countered them. He does not need to change at all because hes not the asshole.

There are rules for a reason. Just like real life, if you express yourself by saying things inappropriate you could end up in trouble for harassment or not abiding by a restraining order.

WHAT?! Seriously, that was completely retarded. If someone slaps a restraining order on you for saying "learn english", or "quit telling us you're bisexual" they will most likely be laughed out of court. Then again if the Mcdonalds coffee suit went through, who knows.

Its called common sense. You know when you are no longer joking and when you are starting to really annoy people. You cannot HARASS people on Zelaron. You can joke around, you can flame them, but harassment is different and it wont be tolerated. All rules have a common sense clause attached.

Yeah, exactly we are joking. Get it through your head.

You dont ignore your problems? Well guess what, I am telling you to ignore him and stop harrassing him. This isent a damn ego war, hes not fighting back, so you can shut the heck up, you are accomplishing NOTHING by going on. Ignore him, hes not talking about you. A "set of balls" makes you pick on people constantly untill they break down? and then you continue to laugh at them? Thats just being an asshole and has nothing to do with it.

DUR. My problem is you trying to trade my rights off to give another member the exact same rights you're trying to strip me of.

You will try to follow the rules given to you. I am not asking you to change who you are, you can turn him on ignore. If I had the ability to ban you from seeing his posts I would. You can turn that on yourself.

Adding him to my ignore list would very much be chaning who I am, quit asking me to do so.

I have again responded to Each of your points and countered them. He does not need to change at all because hes not the asshole.

As have I. Oh, and thinks for calling me an asshole, hypocrite.

Wow this is getting really drawn out...

WHAT?! Seriously, that was completely retarded. If someone slaps a restraining order on you for saying "learn english", or "quit telling us you're bisexual" they will most likely be laughed out of court. Then again if the Mcdonalds coffee suit went through, who knows.

That was not my point and again you should have known what I mean (or am I giving you too much credit?) but for arguments sake you took it literally just to be able to respond with that.

Yeah, exactly we are joking. Get it through your head.

You are joking ? What if they say you are not joking? What if they Are offended? It seems they are to me. You dont get to say its just a joke if they dont take it that way.

DUR. My problem is you trying to trade my rights off to give another member the exact same rights you're trying to strip me of.

Everyone has equal rights and that sentence is poorly worded.

Adding him to my ignore list would very much be chaning who I am, quit asking me to do so.

If changing who you are means not to make people want to leave zelaron and not to harass them then I am not asking you to, I am telling you to.

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Shinto you were not even trying on that reply seriously. Geekster is the only one who really does that. I don't even know what else I can reply with because even you know that reply was not suitable. No one member should be more important then another anyway.

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Just chill. If they PM us, and actually take the time to write it out good, I'm a decent guy, I can understand. But making a thread about it, to get attention, no.

From what I was under the impression of earlier from previous posts I did not at all get this feeling. Why does it have to be a PM, you cannot honestly tell me his posts do not tell you that he is probably offended because again I am giving you credit for at least that much?

Am I the only one who blissfully laughs when foreigners cannot type English properly? Have I lost my marbles?

I do too sometimes but thats really not the point here =/ Its kinda beyond that now.

Am I the only one who blissfully laughs when foreigners cannot type English properly? Have I lost my marbles?

THE FUCK?! That was supposed to be taken literally. You're saying I may be banned for making jokes, and equating that to the closest thing you could think of in real life.

I know when I'm joking, they don't. End of story. I already said this, if they are being offended and I know about it I will chill, but until then I reserve my right to freedom of speech. If they're saying "stop", that doesn't mean it's offending them, just that they don't like being made fun of. No one does, but if it's honestly bothering them, all they had to do was PM me, telling me it's actually offending them and I would have been doing it less frequently.


That sentence is worded perfectly. You're trying to take my right to say what's on my mind (jokes) so he can say what's on his mind.

No one is leaving Zelaron, quit trying to make this out to be more than it is. He's visiting less frequently because he's busy with his real life.

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Time to be serious, for once.

I think it is very fun and entertaining to jokingly insult other members. If it is at their expense, they should just let it slide, in my opinion. However, when someone like Geekstar gets made fun of for having bad English when it isn't his first language, I do see where certain people should allow for some leeway. It is a little ridiculous to bash someone who is pleaing for you to stop. Kagom can take it, we all know that. I am sure he gets a little annoyed, but he's not gonna go kill himself. However, toying with individuals who are just sort of coming around on Zelaron isn't cool. As "Senior Members"... or just fucking decent people, we have the responsibility to care for the feelings of other people, as shitty and homosexual that sounds. Trust me, I am straight, I ate a 20 oz. steak for dinner.

In all honesty guys, just tone it down, being an asshole is fun, when it is creative. Saying "Oh my God this guy is a fucking IMBECILE" right in his eye, not very cool.

















....................shit where the fuck is my saracstic tag.















...............Just kidding, I am actually being serious.

When I reply to things like this, I give the poster a bit of credit. I think they have logic and know what goes on. Slim, I would honestly think and Hope you would at least get a HINT That he does Not like it and he wants you to stop meaning it Is offending him in some way. If you want to argue with me about this fine but I know I can give you credit for knowing at least that much. Just look at his replies. There is no reason for someone to keep up the insults, when they have already made their point. You said yourself you would cool down if you knew it was offending him, that at least shows you care a little. So from that I think this argument is more of the challenge authority, let me say what I want and that you might actually think the mocking of geekster can stop for a while if hes offended.

I've already said that if it's bothering him that much, a simple PM would lax the comments, the fact that he hasn't taken the innitiative to do it just (to me) says that it's not bothering him as much as you think it does. I may be wrong but that's just the way I'm seeing it.

*see above* but again like shinto at least your being more reasonable then before about this. This can now be just a simple misunderstanding or midjudgement as to whether he is offended or not. But from his replies in this thread and others and the main reason hes probably going to be posting less, camon, you know that hes at least offended a bit. Honestly, look at it, you know he is. A PM would just further what I and you should already suspect.

I have now been doing/watching this thread for... 2 hours....