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Posted 2004-01-19, 08:33 AM in reply to Majere's post starting "Or you can wear heavy armor and use a..."
" Nerf taming and mages for monsters, I want to be able to make a dexer in a day that can make me tons of cash. "
I talk trash because I can back it up, duel me?
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Posted 2004-01-20, 12:30 AM in reply to Drithe's post starting "" Nerf taming and mages for monsters, I..."
Drithe said:
" Nerf taming and mages for monsters, I want to be able to make a dexer in a day that can make me tons of cash. "
you can also make a tamer in a day too bro... i was just giving a suggestion to give the dexers something to hunt cuz they obviously are mad about not having tamers and are too lazy to make one =/
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Posted 2004-01-20, 10:11 AM in reply to Mag Milly's post starting "you can also make a tamer in a day too..."
You can powergame anything in one day, a tamer takes far more effort than a dexer. You have to pay for regs to GM magery, taming takes at least 4 hours to GM. BARDS are what are underpowered here, Tamers are fine, bards need to be better for fighting PvM. I've compared, my tamer killing bloods to my friends bard doing the titan spawn. In the time I made 12k he only made 8k. We estimate that after the titan casting bug is fixed it will be about even. It shoulnd't be even, a bard should be better at PvM than a tamer. My dexer can beat the shit out of lich lords and demons, and I'm sure with a blood drinking weapon he can beat blood eles too. Everything is where it should be except for bards.
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Posted 2004-01-20, 02:36 PM in reply to Drithe's post starting "You can powergame anything in one day,..."
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Everything is where it should be except for bards.
Your opinion, and I sadly disagree. You'll never see a group of dexers kill a boss monster, without a form of taming or magery. Some dungeons even have places where you have teleport over to go further. Not to mention the money you spend on reagants is easily earned back just by saving time on the gate spell, when dexers by themselves have to walk from place to place. You can argue that, but if fighters are even as hunters, how come you aren't using your fighter to earn gold instead of your mage? Obviously, even at the cost of reagants.... you can still grab a lot of them from monsters. Everyone knows that. Is it really disputable?

Sadly, on most RUNUO based shards, being a fighter is a huge crutch.
It's a proven fact this shard is geared towards mages and tamers, so I doubt that's going to change anytime soon. I do admit that fighters in PVP are balanced if they come prepared with traps, potions, and poison. But in PVM, because so many monsters are exactly alike, a few skills dominate the whole hunting experience.
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Posted 2004-01-20, 02:44 PM in reply to Nilbog's post starting "Your opinion, and I sadly disagree. ..."
I've watched Dantrag kill a blood faster than my WW and Mare. A dexer can do 50 damage a hit with a slayer katana, which swings 2 times a second at min with 100 dex. That's 300 damage every three seconds. The only thing I know of that does more damage is still a sekret and I can't tell you. =] Never once did you say why I was wrong about bards needing a boost. My dexer makes money slower than my tamer, yes. My mage, no. Tamers are -supposed- to be geared for PvM; however they -can- do other things. What's a bard going to do in PvP, Provoke the dexer to attack him? If you don't think your fighter is good enough for monsters, make a tamer, as Mag said earlier, you can make one in a day.
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Posted 2004-01-21, 12:46 AM in reply to Drithe's post starting "I've watched Dantrag kill a blood..."
Bards were never meant for PVP. I'm strictly speaking OSI standards and goals here. My only point was that PVM is not balanced the original way the game was coded. Anyhow, It's Majere's shard, he decides the balance.

Yes I have a tamer. I have a mage. I have a fighter. I have a bard. My account is 25 days old. Sadly the difference in money-accumulation between the skills are well aware to me.
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Posted 2004-01-21, 10:42 AM in reply to Nilbog's post starting "Bards were never meant for PVP. I'm..."
Do you have four characters to make money or something? The reason we have multiple char slots is because it's GIVEN than some chars should be better at things than others.
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