Grand Finale! Samus vs Raziel

Space jump, blah blah blah, screw attack, blah blah blah, miles in the sky don't matter to Samus, blah blah blah, so yeah.

[A VERY interesting arguement WetWired.... Thank you SOOOOO much for showing us your AMAZING intelligence.


The world shifts so much, isn't it possible for someone a mile in the air, to suddenly be on the ground? Or, if a building suddenly shifts where Raziel is standing, he's protected by the top of it.


To win this, some aeril manovering by Samus could be used, but I think a ground battle would work nicely.


Samus had a slight advantage. She has long-range weaponry. A ton of it. Raziel has his little Force Projectiles. They wouldn't be enought to win, when facing Samus' arsenal.

He would have to devise a way to get near her to use his Reavers. With the world changing, he could be very near her, ready to strike. And then he might be fifty feet away from her.

How would Spectral Shift work here? Would he be able to switch to it and stay there? Or would he sort of switch back and forth?

It'd be interesting to see how the spectral realm looks in a place like this.

I have a question. When Raziel returns to the material realm, can he choose where to return, or is it preditermined by his former location based upon (or not) his movement in the spectral realm?

If he has the ability to choose where he returns, then he is at a major advantage, as he has the ability to teleport for all practical purposes. If he does not have the ability, then he either returns where he shifted or to a translation of where he shifted based upon his movement. In either situation, I would have to question whether or not his phyical location would be the same.

Example:
They are fighting on a tower. Raziel shifts to heal. He comes back without the ability to choose where he goes. (Either he is in the same place, or he is say... 10 feet forward, as he decided to walk 10 feet forward in the spectral realm.) Is he still on top of the tower, or does he have the same X,Y,Z coordinates as before? If the setting has shifted to a moon of Saturn, is Raziel 30 feet from Samus as he was before?

I would find it hard to believe that he would still be standing on the tower that may have never existed in the first place, but these are not my laws of physics...

No, Bob, Raziel requires the use of a "shift point" in the Spectral Realm in order to shift back into the Material Realm. He can shift into Spectral whenever and wherever he wants, but shifting out of the Spectral Realm requires a shift point.

So, he can essentially teleport, it's just that he'll always teleport to the same place.

Oh, and considering that time doesn't exist in the Spectral Realm, no, the arena could not shift while he was in Spectral. To his opponent, his shift to and from Spectral is instantaneous.

Ah! I forgot about that. Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me.

Well, I'm going to put my vote on Raziel. I don't have a lot of time to explain why now, but I'll put some thought into it if I have time today and get back to it later.

(I wish Magus were still here. He would pwn Samus.)

Well, being that Raziel is a mainly melee based fighter, he would have an extremely hard time winning against a mainly long-range attacking foe, as Samus is considered with her arsenal of firepower. Raziel can shift all he wants, but it will only take Samus 2 or 3 times max to realize that when he comes back, he will always be in the same place. Bang bang, dead.

Raziel's glyphs are way too weak to do any real damage to Samus, and as stated in earlier fights it would merely stun her, if it actually landed... Even so, Samus could always screw attack when they are approaching, hence neglecting their entire premise since only extreme power attacks can halt a screw attack, as was established many a times in earlier rounds.

I honestly don't see how Samus could possibly lose this one. Raziel is strong, but his constraints will prove too insurmountable in this battle. He needs broader attacking abilities to pull out a win, which from what little I know about him, he simply doesn't have.