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Posted 2004-10-12, 10:46 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "This thread is bullshit. The American..."
Thanatos said:
George Bush stated many, many times that he would retaliate to whoever attacked us AND declare war on terrorism.
Saddam Hussein did not attack us, regardless of how similar his name may sound to "Osama Bin Laden" in your ears.


Thanatos said:
Bush actually stood behind what he said(despite Kerry's inconsistent attitude) and attacked Afghanistan.
Yes...and then he diverted attention away from capturing Bin Laden in order to instigate an unneccessary and frivolous war with a completely separate and uninvolved country.


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We attacked Iraq because they had specific links to Al-Queda.
Show me the specific links. You show me where Iraq currently has specific and dangerous links to Al Qaeda. I want sources. Credible ones. As it stands now, the only genuine link between Hussein and Bin Laden is that they hate us and live in the same part of the world.


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Saddam Hussein is a terrorist who killed his own people and terrorized innocent civilians in many other countries. Remember Kuwait, pinpricks?
And it's not our fucking job to go policing other countries. Yeah, he was an asshole, yeah he deserved to be removed from power, but at the expense of our own security and freedom? No. We didn't attack him because he was a terrorist, we attacked him to flex muscle and play the role of "World Cop", like we have been doing unnecessarily for the last fifty years.


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Yeah, he's a terrorist. Yeah, we're at war with terrorism. PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER, MORONS.
Because fighting a war against an idea works so fucking well. Communism still exists, and we've been fighting that idea since the 50's.


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You Kerry supporters have made up so many excuses as to why we're over there in Iraq. Oil, power, show our strength, war-monger; STICK WITH ONE CONCLUSION. I can't wait to hear the next reason as to why we're in Iraq, I swear one comes up every other week.
You know why all of those reasons are still flying around today? BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL STILL VALID AND ARE ALL STILL TRUE, YOU FUCKING MORON. We're not limited to picking one reason for abhorring this war and sticking with it when more and more reasons come to the surface every day. I abhor this war for all of those reasons and more simultaneously.


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You know what? If Gore had been elected in 2000 and we had been attacked, he would have done the same thing as Bush did.
I'm absolutely positive that he would have attacked Afghanistan, just like any good president should have. I'm also relatively positive that he would not have dragged us into a war with a completely unrelated country based on assumptions that have been proven 100% and entirely wrong. There were no weapons of mass destruction, Hussein had no capability to produce WMDs, and his resources in that area were actually diminishing over time, not increasing.

He was not a threat to us. He simply didn't like us. If the simple fact that a country doesn't like us is all the explanation we need to give in order to justifiably attack them, then we should have flattened France decades ago.


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I'm sick of all you bastards being so hypocritical about everything the Bush administration has promised.
I'm not being hypocritical in the slightest. I absolutely agree that Hussein was a horrible man and needed to be ousted, but it needed to be done by his own fucking people. It's not impossible, it's been done before by countless nations. Considering the fact that his people didn't do it for, what 30 or 40 years, you'd imagine that they weren't terribly interested in having him removed from power.

But, since we absolutely had to stick our fucking noses in it, we should have done it for the right reasons and by executing the actions in the right way. Bush did neither. He caused the needless deaths of thousands of American lives and even further tarnished the international reputation of this country by randomly and spastically instigating a war based on 100% bullshit.

Pull your head out of your ass.

Last edited by Raziel; 2004-10-12 at 10:53 PM.
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