The Truth About Paladin Talents

Oh, you haven't experienced endgame on him is why.

At level 50 or so, your soloing slows down to near-Paladin speed. Whack, whack, whack, and pray for a few windfury procs. If you excessively Shock, you'll drink after every mob.

In endgame instancing, you drop totems and add a very minor amount of DPS, while keeping a mana reserve for healing, in case shit goes down.

In Molten Core, it's even worse. You don't shock, and you rarely Melee. You're a gimped healbot with totems.

This is why I have a 60 Mage now, too.

Actually, I've played on my brother's shaman plenty. Kojiroh on Mal'Ganis, probably the top shaman on his server. I enjoyed it.

Be happy Volls, all I am is a cleanse/buff bot, in end game instances. Such and awesome "melee hybrid" eh ? And you are complaining about Shamans ? For the love of God I would love to be able to control my damage, not just pray for my SoC to proc. I am not saying the game is bad, I am just saying Blizzard are idiots for ruining my beloved Paladin class. I loved Paladin in D2, and then in WoW I become a Cleric. Go figure.

Just play another class until the Paladin suits your playstyle. I was originally a rogue but didn't like it much and changed to a mage and haven't looked back since. Sure, there's bugs and issues with the class but it's still fairly solid. I may start my rogue up again sometime, but I dunno.

Oh, you're one of the goobers that thinks Shaman is Easy Mode.

Shamans PvE much the same as Paladins do levels 50+. Sure, we can add shocks to take down a mob faster, but the downtime isn't really worth it.

If we get jumped drinking or at low mana, we're screwed. So, we have to PvE JUST like a Paladin. Whack away and pray for Windfury to proc. They also have *0* CC and next to nothing for defensive abilities, so we have difficulty taking multiple baddies.

Shamans are very similar in 40-man instances to a Paladin, except we lack Cleanse. We buff our party with totems and heal. Most raids in MC don't even really bother to have Shamans melee.


To be honest, I enjoy just about every other class available to the Horde more than my Shaman.

So, Blizzard sucks at creating "good at everything, but great at nothing characters" such as Paladin's and Shaman's ? But with your talents are you able to specialize in something ? Because with the Holy and Retribution trees on Paladin, you can't specialize. You have damage spell at bottom of Holy tree and Buff spell at bottom of Retribution tree, it's these little things that have made Paladin retardly made. And the fact that every single patch Paladin has been nerfed, not 1.06 ( we didn't get nerfed, but we didn't get a buff, we got some bug fixes that only affected other people ( the ones that blizzard only seems to fix ) ) makes you want to play a Paladin doesn't it ? And no, I AM NOT going to reroll, just think of all the money I've wasted playing this game, and I am supposed to just restart ? I'd rather not.

Well I've played all three trees for my shaman, never tried a multiple tree build though(besides my 5 points in enhancement right now to give me more mana.) I respecced to restoration at level 43, bought all new gear, got tons of mana, and now I'm pretty much a killing machine PvE. I don't really care much for PvP, so I'm not sure how effective I am, but every fair fight I've been in I've won(fair meaning within 3 or so levels of me and not a whole group of people. I get ganked by 60s all of the time but that isn't because I suck.)

I'd have to say that shamans are my favorite class(and I've played all of them, I've got one of each for the horde and I've tried paladin as I stated above.) They are so all-around that I can basically do anything I want, by myself or in a group. I was main healer in ZF a couple of days ago at level 46, and ran out of mana only once. I can be back-up healer, throwing down totems for support and still doing a fair amount of damage, or I can just be purely DPS if I have to. I could probably even be a tank if needed, just not the best. Shamans can't really be the BEST at anything. Priests are always better healers, rogues/mages always have better DPS(I think so anyway, I've given a few a run for their money), and warriors/druids are always better tanks, but I like being able to do all of those things at once, it never gets boring. A warrior never gets to save a party by being a great healer, and a priest never gets to tank a boss for their party or anything like that, but I can do just about anything I want.

I don't claim to be a pro so any of the above information could be incorrect.

Meh, pallies I guess have gotten screwed from these posts it seems. I only have to deal with my drooid, which lets be honest was supposed to be a hybrid class, but is really a healing class that can shapeshift. But we are the best healers in game, so whatever.

Ok then, look at mages. We haven't recieved a single buff since I believe open beta. We got a group AI buff and a new rank of conjure water, both of which should have been in-game already. In fact, we get constant nerfs. Poly is now unreliable at best (it's even bugged in PvE, has been for a couple months and still haven't been fixed). They just made 40% of fire mages damage dispellable. All our end-talents can be dispelled/purged away. Druids are totally immune to slowing effects, and paladins can just cleanse them away. Oh, and the last time our class rep said anything concerning our class was March 7th.


Seriously, just stick it out.

I've already quit, can't stick it out. And the mage class does the most damage of any class. How can that be bad? I mean, at least you ARE good at something. You are very good at PvP, very good at instances, people can always use mages. Well, here I go on PvP now. I quit PvP along time ago. I tried it alittle when the ranking system came out, but I have no way to stop people from running away ( unless I spec all the way into the protection talent tree, which is completely wasted because I will have no dps and people aren't going to hit me so all that defense is kinda wasted ) so if anyone just wants to live against me, they let me pound away, /laugh at me and run away, it's pathetic. Did you guys look at the prizes for pvp on Blizzard website, did you realize that not a single Paladin won anything FROM ALL THE SERVERS. That should tell you something.