The Truth About Paladin Talents

Ok then, look at mages. We haven't recieved a single buff since I believe open beta. We got a group AI buff and a new rank of conjure water, both of which should have been in-game already. In fact, we get constant nerfs. Poly is now unreliable at best (it's even bugged in PvE, has been for a couple months and still haven't been fixed). They just made 40% of fire mages damage dispellable. All our end-talents can be dispelled/purged away. Druids are totally immune to slowing effects, and paladins can just cleanse them away. Oh, and the last time our class rep said anything concerning our class was March 7th.


Seriously, just stick it out.

I've already quit, can't stick it out. And the mage class does the most damage of any class. How can that be bad? I mean, at least you ARE good at something. You are very good at PvP, very good at instances, people can always use mages. Well, here I go on PvP now. I quit PvP along time ago. I tried it alittle when the ranking system came out, but I have no way to stop people from running away ( unless I spec all the way into the protection talent tree, which is completely wasted because I will have no dps and people aren't going to hit me so all that defense is kinda wasted ) so if anyone just wants to live against me, they let me pound away, /laugh at me and run away, it's pathetic. Did you guys look at the prizes for pvp on Blizzard website, did you realize that not a single Paladin won anything FROM ALL THE SERVERS. That should tell you something.

Rogues out damage us, Warriors can out damage us, Locks can out damage us, hunter can out damage us. All also have much higher survivability than a mage does. We can't beat priests or shaman if they have any idea what they're doing. Unless I'm using +dmg gear I can't really kill much of anything, as everything kills me in 2 shots if I don't get incredibly lucky with crits.

You must just really suck. I play regularly with a mage that owns, and he loves it.

I don't see how slim, as Mages won the most awards for PvP, yes even better than Rogues.

You must just really suck. I play regularly with a mage that owns, and he loves it.

Yeah, your'e a complete moron. I didn't say I regularly lose, as I don't. Competent rogues have a higher DPS, Hunter can and HAVE done higher dps than mages, as have locks and warriors. The problem is most people aren't competent. I like my mage, but I'm trying to show that it's not the powerhouse everyone thinks it us, much like paladins aren't as nerf-worthy as everyone thinks. I've totally destroyed paladins at times, had good fights with them, and other times been owned. I learned from this and adapted to it. Also, if you get owned by a mage as a shaman, you need to reroll immediately.


The point I'm trying to make is the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. I've tried other classes that I thought would be awesome, and you soon find out they aren't as good as you think.




Badboy: Mages likely won because we're ranged classes. In mass PvP we can stand back undetected and lob spells at anyone that steps in max distance whereas a rogue has to risk stealthing behind everyone to target one of the softer cloth targets. Usually when this happens they get annhilated by warriors and everything else that saw them pop up. If you're talking strictly solo, 1v1 a mage isn't near as good because near everything can trash us in 2-3 shots.

If you're talking strictly solo, 1v1 a mage isn't near as good because near everything can trash us in 2-3 shots.

Since when has "strickly solo" mattered, dueling means nothing, just because you are a cloth and "might" lose in 1 vs 1 doesn't make up for the fact that you are vastly superior in everything else.

1. I'm not counting duels. Duels aren't PvP.
2. I soloed 1-60 except instances and un-instanced elite quests. I made alot of corpse runs, and they damn sure weren't from mobs.
3. We have more dps than you, that's about it. You can heal, You have plate. you're INSANELY more survivable. You trade DPS for survivability. If you want a dps class like I'm assuming the Paladin was in other games, roll a warrior and spec arms/fury like everyone else.

I'll agree, mages do suck solo most of the time, but how often are you playing by yourself? It's an MMO, you could find someone to level with easily. I AOE grind with my mage friend all of the time, it's amazing. We can finish a grinding quest in no time by him AOEing while I heal him, and since I'm a pure restoration shaman with pretty much godly mana for my level, we make a great team.

I'm solo 90% of the time, as I said above. Sure, I could drag 4 other people around with me whenever I do something but that just complicates shit.