The Truth About Paladin Talents

You must just really suck. I play regularly with a mage that owns, and he loves it.

I don't see how slim, as Mages won the most awards for PvP, yes even better than Rogues.

You must just really suck. I play regularly with a mage that owns, and he loves it.

Yeah, your'e a complete moron. I didn't say I regularly lose, as I don't. Competent rogues have a higher DPS, Hunter can and HAVE done higher dps than mages, as have locks and warriors. The problem is most people aren't competent. I like my mage, but I'm trying to show that it's not the powerhouse everyone thinks it us, much like paladins aren't as nerf-worthy as everyone thinks. I've totally destroyed paladins at times, had good fights with them, and other times been owned. I learned from this and adapted to it. Also, if you get owned by a mage as a shaman, you need to reroll immediately.


The point I'm trying to make is the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. I've tried other classes that I thought would be awesome, and you soon find out they aren't as good as you think.




Badboy: Mages likely won because we're ranged classes. In mass PvP we can stand back undetected and lob spells at anyone that steps in max distance whereas a rogue has to risk stealthing behind everyone to target one of the softer cloth targets. Usually when this happens they get annhilated by warriors and everything else that saw them pop up. If you're talking strictly solo, 1v1 a mage isn't near as good because near everything can trash us in 2-3 shots.

If you're talking strictly solo, 1v1 a mage isn't near as good because near everything can trash us in 2-3 shots.

Since when has "strickly solo" mattered, dueling means nothing, just because you are a cloth and "might" lose in 1 vs 1 doesn't make up for the fact that you are vastly superior in everything else.

1. I'm not counting duels. Duels aren't PvP.
2. I soloed 1-60 except instances and un-instanced elite quests. I made alot of corpse runs, and they damn sure weren't from mobs.
3. We have more dps than you, that's about it. You can heal, You have plate. you're INSANELY more survivable. You trade DPS for survivability. If you want a dps class like I'm assuming the Paladin was in other games, roll a warrior and spec arms/fury like everyone else.

So your saying in a game where the offensive bonuses greatly outnumber the defensive bonuses, I should be glad I can heal myself with the worst healing spells, have plate armor ( which means dick to magic by the way ), and have the worst damage of any class? And I know what your going to say that I have a invinsibility shield, but think about it, does the shield help me accomplish anything? If it's against any good class in PvP and I shield they just run away and if it's 1vs1 they just use first aid. The shield does nothing but prolong the enevitable.

So your saying in a game where the offensive bonuses greatly outnumber the defensive bonuses, I should be glad I can heal myself with the worst healing spells, have plate armor ( which means dick to magic by the way ), and have the worst damage of any class?

Ok, you should have stopped right there. This is why I said wait it out. They're still balancing the classes. Yes, paladins need work but it's nothing to quit over. I've seen plenty of paladins do damn fine work in a group by not TRYING to be offensive, but healing those that ARE offensive classes. Another alternative would be to "taunt" the players. Trust me, if you whack a caster in the face with a hammer enough he'll either die, or start trying to evade your attacks. A moving caster means one that can cast very few spells of any real use. (Let's not forget your resistance auras, you'd be surprised how few paladins I've seen use them)


Just give the balance issues some time to work themselves out (hell, 3 classes can completely own the SHIT out of me without me even having half a chance in hell of beating them, and druids are a damn tough fight as well as well equipped warriors) I don't like it either, but I deal with it.

Ok, you should have stopped right there. This is why I said wait it out. They're still balancing the classes. Yes, paladins need work but it's nothing to quit over. I've seen plenty of paladins do damn fine work in a group by not TRYING to be offensive, but healing those that ARE offensive classes. Another alternative would be to "taunt" the players. Trust me, if you whack a caster in the face with a hammer enough he'll either die, or start trying to evade your attacks. A moving caster means one that can cast very few spells of any real use. (Let's not forget your resistance auras, you'd be surprised how few paladins I've seen use them) Just give the balance issues some time to work themselves out (hell, 3 classes can completely own the SHIT out of me without me even having half a chance in hell of beating them, and druids are a damn tough fight as well as well equipped warriors) I don't like it either, but I deal with it.

But I did not pick Paladin class to be a Cleric, look at the Blizzard description of Paladin "A more melee oriented hybrid" so me staying back and being the worst healing class in the game is quit frankly, a waste. And not to mention the fact that most plate armor is not geared towards casters/healers, so if I wanted some healing stats I would have to give up my plate and go to cloth, which gives up the "Priest in Plate" idea.

I'll agree, mages do suck solo most of the time, but how often are you playing by yourself? It's an MMO, you could find someone to level with easily. I AOE grind with my mage friend all of the time, it's amazing. We can finish a grinding quest in no time by him AOEing while I heal him, and since I'm a pure restoration shaman with pretty much godly mana for my level, we make a great team.

I'm solo 90% of the time, as I said above. Sure, I could drag 4 other people around with me whenever I do something but that just complicates shit.

The only time I'm ever in a group with 4 other people is in instances. Questing goes a lot faster and is a lot more fun when you've got someone with you.