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Posted 2005-09-11, 09:56 AM
the highest def char i have ever seen claimed he had 25k def
has anyone seen a char with more?

most of the high realy high def chars are exiled paladins
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Posted 2005-09-11, 10:08 AM in reply to King Lycaon 101's post "highest def char u have ever seen"
I had a 41k defence concentrate barb.
My friend had a 40k def zealot.

One of my old friends who doesnt play anymore said that in his melee dueling 'club' (palapk etc), there was one guy with 60k def. But I don't really believe him.
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Posted 2005-09-11, 10:11 AM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "I had a 41k defence concentrate barb...."
its hard for me to believe the 40k and the 60k is impossible for me too lol
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Posted 2005-09-11, 10:18 AM in reply to King Lycaon 101's post starting "its hard for me to believe the 40k and..."
y cant i

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Posted 2005-09-11, 10:06 PM in reply to King Lycaon 101's post starting "y cant i"
Don't double post when replying to yourself please. Use the edit feature.

And trust me. 40k is easily possible with a concentrate barb (this is when he is concentrating of course....)
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Posted 2005-09-12, 03:41 PM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "Don't double post when replying to..."
Say i had 4105 ar and 998% to ar . how much ar would that be? Im hoping at least 40k.
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Posted 2005-09-12, 04:31 PM in reply to King Lycaon 101's post starting "Say i had 4105 ar and 998% to ar . how..."
wtf?!
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Posted 2005-09-12, 04:38 PM in reply to C3Fable's post starting "wtf?!"
wtf? wht
is it spaz time already
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Posted 2005-09-12, 06:57 PM in reply to King Lycaon 101's post starting "wtf? wht is it spaz time already"
Less spam ladies.

Have you tried looking up the arreat summit?
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Posted 2005-09-12, 08:26 PM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "Less spam ladies. Have you tried..."
what purpose does the answer to your question hold?

-----anywho, rephrase you question to where it makes more sence and maybe we can give you an answer
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Posted 2005-09-12, 09:56 PM in reply to C3Fable's post starting "what purpose does the answer to your..."
Okay, if I'm wrong on my theory, correct me, and I *may* recalculate.
This is how I applied bonuses:
1. Base defense = Dex / 4
2. Enhanced defense modifiers ON an item is applied to base only
3. +Defense modifiers to items are applied after enhanced defense modifiers.
4. Enhanced defense skills apply to total defense.
5. Enhanced defense modifiers on items without defense (weapons, amulets) are applied to total defense along with skills.

If all of my ideas hold true, this *should* be the highest possible defense for a level 99 barbarian with perfect gear.

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Ethereal Sacred Armor 4 socket Stone: 	    	600base + 50%eth + 290% + 16 str
Ethereal Troll Nest 2 socket Splendor 		173base + 50%eth + 100% + 1 skill
Ethereal Arachnid Mesh				62base + 50%eth + 120% + 1 skill
Ethereal Marrowalk				67base + 50%eth + 200% + 17 dex + 20 str
Ethereal Steelrend				71base + 50%eth + 210 + 20 str
Ethereal Arreat's Face				121base + 50%eth + 200% + 2 skills + 2 combat skills + 20 dex + 20 str
Magic jewel in Helm				64def + 9 dex 
Weapon 4 sock Phoenix 			        400%
2x Bul-Kathos					+ 2 skills
Rare Amulet					+ 2 skills + 20 dex + 20 str
Annihilus					+ 1 skill + 20 dex + 20 str
Small Charms	x10				+ 300 def + 20 dex
Hellfire Torch					+ 3 skils + 20 dex + 20 str
Grand Charms	x9				+9 masteries + 54 dex



136str + 30base + 66points = 232str
180dex + 20base + 439points = 639dex


159.75 base def				              159.75
364 def charms and jewel                              364.0
600 * 4.4 					      2640.0
173 * 2.5					      432.5
62 * 2.7					      167.4
67 * 3.5					      234.5
71 * 1.5					      255.6
121 * 3.5					      423.5
						      4686.25

20 concentrate + 12 all + 1 battle command + 2 combat = 35 concentrate = 	440% defense
20 shout + 12 all + 1 battle command = 33 shout = 				420% defense
20 iron skin + 12 all + 1 battle command + 9 masteries = 42 iron skin =         440% defense
Phoenix = 									400% defense
									        1700% defense


Total Def While Attacking: 84352.5
Total Def While Standing:  63733.0
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Posted 2005-09-12, 11:57 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Okay, if I'm wrong on my theory,..."
Jesus! Now try it w/out the eth mods, cause no1 would use those. Although Im sure it wont make to much of a difference. Someone carry out Bobs build! Chop CHOP! I have to see this ultimate tank warrior. Could you just imagine telling people in a duel you have 84k defense, and listening to all of them "bullshit" "omg noob stfu" "ya right noob"
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Posted 2005-09-13, 12:07 AM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "Jesus! Now try it w/out the eth mods,..."
I'd like to see highest def pally as well just to see if it would be higher than barb.
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Posted 2005-09-13, 12:11 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I'd like to see highest def pally as..."
Im assuming Bob was taking into account that the thread title is Highest def on a char. So hes saying the Barb can have the highest possible. Although I would like to see the paladins also. Try and factor in some merc defiance aura next time too.
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Posted 2005-09-13, 06:13 AM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "Im assuming Bob was taking into account..."
thats pretty sick chubbs
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Posted 2005-09-13, 08:37 AM in reply to C3Fable's post starting "thats pretty sick chubbs"
Well, I was working with Barb because that's what was presented.

Barbs have a defense increasing skill in each of their three trees, thus any item that adds +1 to all skills adds 30% enhanced defense. For a paladin, there are only two trees with defense increasing stats. One gives 10%, and the other gives 15% per level.

With a quick inspection... I'd change the shield and helm... eth HoZ with socket... gain +1 to all and +2 combat and add a bit of defense and dex and dex... Helm is eth Andy's Visage with socket... gain +1 to all and some str...

The overall enhanced defense mod would be 1815% over the Barb's 1700% with a bit more base defense... probably around 250 more def...

Let's see... It'd change 156 + 5 + 7.5 + 38.5 + 2.25 + 64 - 1.25 (str penalty) = 272. Then your total would be 4958.25 and the final enhanced defense would be... 95446.3125

That's an estimate, mind you. I think all the basic gear should be the same besides those two items... I took into effect the change of defense, enhanced defense, the extra jewel, the str and dex differences of items and characters, and the different skills of course. If I missed anything, then let me know. Otherwise, that number should hold up.

However... When looking at defiance aura boost from a merc... and I'm assuming the Pally's defiance won't stack with the merc's, the Barb would definately be higher.

A level 55 normal defiance merc has level 18 defiance. +2 skills from the helm, +2 skills from the armor, +4 skills from the weapon (a2 mercs can use spears, right?) = 26 defiance = 320% enhanced defense.

With a perfect merc (which is easy to do) stacked onto a barb's perfect setup, he'd have 99348.5 attacking and 78729 standing defense.

Just in case you're wondering if it's possible to break the 100k mark:

With a perfect barb and a paladin set up for max defiance (+3 circlet, +3 ammy, +1 belt, +2 armor, +2 shield, +4 weapon, +2 rings, +1 anni, +3 torch, +9 gcharms = 30 skills + 1 barb shout = lvl 51 defiance) that's 570% enhanced defense bringing the barb's standing defense to 90444.625 and attacking defense to... *drumroll*

111,064.125
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Posted 2005-09-13, 10:00 AM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Well, I was working with Barb because..."
I wish you could hear me clapping right now.
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Posted 2005-09-14, 02:20 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Well, I was working with Barb because..."
Hay bob you seem like a veteran player
say i had 2530 ar and 998% to ar (from my skills) how do i calculate that:
No one seems to be able to awnser me
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Posted 2005-09-14, 02:27 PM in reply to King Lycaon 101's post starting "Hay bob you seem like a veteran player ..."
Well, I would assume it would be 2350 * 10.98 = actual defense rating.

There are certain modifiers (a certain assassin skill or item or something comes to mind) that apply at a different time than the other modifiers due to reason or bug or whatnot. Those could increase your actual defense rating a lot.
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Posted 2005-09-14, 03:52 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Well, I would assume it would be 2350 *..."
yea but im talking about attack rating
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