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Posted 2006-02-06, 04:30 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I think his point was blaming a "God",..."
That was my point, I just went into more detail than I originally intended to.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 04:52 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "That was my point, I just went into..."
Take it HERE guys.

I am sorry for your loss, I know what it is like to lose a friend unexpectedly... I am sure many of us have, actually.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 04:56 PM in reply to Jamesadin's post starting "Take it HERE..."
Technically that thread has expired. I mean, the last post was 3 years ago.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 08:22 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "Technically that thread has expired. I..."
Here is a spoiler






There is no God
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Posted 2006-02-06, 09:25 PM in reply to Hades-Knight's post starting "Here is a spoiler There is..."
Im just going to say that believing in a higher being, such as God, is a great way to move past shit like this. It gives you an out. It works for me and might not work for you. Quite honesyly, I dont care if you believe in the devil as long as you are happy and it gives you a way to cope with the loss. Do u honestly want me to believe that the cause is because of this tragedy is because of unfortunate events? Who decides how these unfortunate events occur or who it happens to? Plus, if you really think about it, then why do we exist then? Why do we bleed when we are pricked and why do we sweat if its hot? I know your going to say its the body's way of dealing with certain problems, but what i believe is that God makes our bodies and we are the ones that control them. If something bad happens to them, then for the most part, we are responsible. But for a persons heart to just stop, when they dont do drugs, aren't overweight and workout regularly, is a sign that someone or something is out there fucking with us.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 09:43 PM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post starting "Im just going to say that believing in..."
gruesomeBODY said:
Do u honestly want me to believe that the cause is because of this tragedy is because of unfortunate events?
Uh... yes. That's the whole point of, you know, having a brain, common sense, and an education. To give you enough logic not believe in some invisible man in the sky.

gruesomeBODY said:
Who decides how these unfortunate events occur or who it happens to?
Nobody "decides." You are looking for an answer to the unknown and becoming afraid of it, and thus labeling it as an "act of god."

gruesomeBODY said:
But for a persons heart to just stop, when they dont do drugs, aren't overweight and workout regularly, is a sign that someone or something is out there fucking with us.
Really, what can you NOT understand about it? His heart FAILED. Nobody MADE IT FAIL. An omnipotent being did not snap his fingers and kill your friend. I'm sure the autopsy will provide a completely logical reason for his death. Perhaps he had a rupture in his left ventricle as a child and it became a problem that one night... regardless, he was not murdered. He simply died because his heart gave out.

gruesomeBODY said:
Plus, if you really think about it, then why do we exist then? Why do we bleed when we are pricked and why do we sweat if its hot? I know your going to say its the body's way of dealing with certain problems, but what i believe is that God makes our bodies and we are the ones that control them.
This is just crazy. God did not create your body. Your parents created your body. Your life and death are not predetermined.

To quote Vonnegut - "Vy you? Vy anybody?" It's impossible to know all the reasons behind everything. However, there IS a reason behind every occurance and it is NOT a divine influence.

I have a genetic bone disease. I don't ask myself "why did god do this me?" Most likely, chemical spraying that occured in the city when my mom was pregnant caused it. That is hardly an act of god.

To be brusque, blaming stuff on god or any other "higher power" is cowardly and shows how weak your fortitude is, as well as your ability to understand the world around you. It makes you look stupid. You need to accept that things are constantly in motion. This causes "chance" that may not always be in your favor. But that does not make it supernatural. Just unfortunate.

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Posted 2006-02-07, 06:41 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "Uh... yes. That's the whole point of,..."
That statement could be turned around on the atheists just as easily, though.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 10:49 PM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post starting "Im just going to say that believing in..."
some ppl say that these things happen just because of something bad that we did, but i think that it's not quite true. some ppl do bad things all the time and good things still happen to them. and sometimes good ppl die, but their death causes good things to happen. i know it's not fair, but just trust that God has a greater plan for everything.

and grav? why are you so intent on proving that God doesn't exist when you should be helping gruesomeBODY cope?. and why do you care what he believes in?! if you were religious, then i could see why you care, but you have no obvious reason!
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Posted 2006-02-07, 05:52 AM in reply to sciencekid's post starting "some ppl say that these things happen..."
sciencekid said:
some ppl say that these things happen just because of something bad that we did, but i think that it's not quite true. some ppl do bad things all the time and good things still happen to them. and sometimes good ppl die, but their death causes good things to happen. i know it's not fair, but just trust that God has a greater plan for everything.

and grav? why are you so intent on proving that God doesn't exist when you should be helping gruesomeBODY cope?. and why do you care what he believes in?! if you were religious, then i could see why you care, but you have no obvious reason!
I thought the reason was obvious. Blaming a nonexistant entity for your problems is not coping at all.

That's like saying terrorism is the reason you can't afford a new car.

Using a scapegoat is easy, real easy. It's seen repeatedly throughout history. Blacks, carpetbaggers, robber barons, judeobolshevism, communists, etc. And what does each of those situations usually end up in? Some of the worst atrocities committed in the world. Slavery, the KKK, oppression, the Holocaust, endless wars. Fear and misunderstanding causes no good. It leads to a "follower nation" who acts out of spite. In a sense, religion is no better than the KKK or Hitler.

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