My Objection to Religion

but people need something to keep them human.

People are human. We aren't given a choice in that matter, nor can we change it.

If they believe they will be rewarded in the 'afterlife' they'll be good little civilians.

I strongly disagree with this statement. Religious people are as likely to commit a crime as secular people. In fact, religion often drives people to commit crimes. Furthermore, a lack of belief in god does not imply a lack of morality. I consider myself be as moral of a person as religious people, however I get to pick and choose my morals based on observation rather than having them told to me from a book.

If everyone was intolerant to God, we'd all be dead.

Again, there is no reason a moral society can't exist without god.

I consider myself be as moral of a person as religious people

Lies, thats like saying im not addicted to WoW.

Lies, thats like saying im not addicted to WoW.

No, it's true. As much as I joke otherwise, I do consider myself to be a moral person. That doesn't mean my morals are immutable or conventional, but there is a standard that I live by.

No, it's true. As much as I joke otherwise, I do consider myself to be a moral person. That doesn't mean my morals are immutable or conventional, but there is a standard that I live by.

True even though we lack religious beliefs I still consider us to be less of an asshole in comparison with most other people in the US.

it can be a choice, it just that its hard to determine without actual proof(i agree with you)
but mostly what the bible says is happening right now which is a strong influence with religions.

but mostly what the bible says is happening right now which is a strong influence with religions.

Such as?

lets take aborting as an example(correct me if i'm wrong i'm translating from french)is a way some women get rid of their child so they wont have to take care of them.
the bible says in psalm 139:13-16:" you Jehova kept me covered in protected form in the woov of my mother. your eyes saw even my enbrion an din your book all her parts were writen."

according to the bible god considers even an infant life who has not yet been born sacred and doing an abort is a serious sin, yet women still go through it. as you can see the bible basically says hundreds of years ago that aborting is a sin and yet its 1 of the methods of avoiding pregnancy that is used most oftened.

People are human. We aren't given a choice in that matter, nor can we change it. I strongly disagree with this statement. Religious people are as likely to commit a crime as secular people. In fact, religion often drives people to commit crimes. Furthermore, a lack of belief in god does not imply a lack of morality. I consider myself be as moral of a person as religious people, however I get to pick and choose my morals based on observation rather than having them told to me from a book. Again, there is no reason a moral society can't exist without god.

I disagree Highly with the first one. I've dedicated my life to becoming a Humain Angel. Yes, yes, I'm completely crazy, sure.

I also disagree with the third one. I'd probably start a cult or something, leading to religions...

Actually if the world had no religion it would be unable to come back. People would not even have thoughts of worshipping anything. Thus his third statement is rather solid. Even makes tons of sense linguistically. Can't shoot him down...

But you are also right in the sense that eventually some whackjob will start another religion except that without books telling them what to worship they may end up worshipping the all mighty twinky.

Still, in the end, Religion has saved alot of people who's lives seem almost worthless (Or they just plain suck at it.)

Still, in the end, Religion has saved alot of people who's lives seem almost worthless (Or they just plain suck at it.)

And just the same, it has probably caused the deaths of the same number of people a hundred times over. Just think about how many wars have been fought in the name of religion, and how many whack-os there have been that strove to kill anyone and everyone that was not of their religion.

I don't deny that religion does good, but it does so much more bad that it's not worth having around.

I think religion is just as moot as anything else when it comes to the blame game though. Think about it. Anything you do is because YOU want to do it. No matter what is out there people will always wish to blame something for their problems instead of facing it head on. Evil people (Evil Doers to Reps) will always commit evil acts and if it serves them they will use whatever they can to gain an advantage whether it be twinkies or religion.

Actually if the world had no religion it would be unable to come back. People would not even have thoughts of worshipping anything. Thus his third statement is rather solid. Even makes tons of sense linguistically. Can't shoot him down...

That most likely isn't true. There was a point when the world had no religion, and then someone used religion to explain what they didn't understand (lightning, rain, whatever.)

The only way I could see religion ever being gone completely is if humans were to explain and understand everything there is to know. As long as there are unknowns, people will explain them with religion. It's the easy way out, basically, rather than trying to figure out what is true.

That most likely isn't true. There was a point when the world had no religion, and then someone used religion to explain what they didn't understand (lightning, rain, whatever.) The only way I could see religion ever being gone completely is if humans were to explain and understand everything there is to know. As long as there are unknowns, people will explain them with religion. It's the easy way out, basically, rather than trying to figure out what is true.

My Girl Friends just says " A Wizard did it. " when she doesn't have an explaination...

That sounds rational.

That sounds rational.

Yup. All the Video Games have rotted her mind the in the most beautiful way!

I disagree Highly with the first one. I've dedicated my life to becoming a Humain Angel. Yes, yes, I'm completely crazy, sure. I also disagree with the third one. I'd probably start a cult or something, leading to religions...

Damn, I miss MJ. I can only imagine his rebuttal to this.

I tried VD. I tried but I am no where near as well versed as MJ...