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Posted 2007-01-09, 09:06 AM in reply to Grav's post starting "There is no real war on terrorism. It..."
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There is no real war on terrorism. It is really just a false metaphor used as an excuse to curb our liberties. And why are people dying every day?

Hmmmm... because

-Our country is on such a downward slope that many young people feel forced into joining the military as a way out?
-The complete lack of education and excruciatingly low standards set in this country compound the problem? This is no coincidence. We are being dumbed down because it makes us easier to control. The average level of intelligence and just competence in general is becoming painfully low.
-The Bush family has been in bed with Saudi Arabian royalty for decades? Did you know that Saddam was the biggest enemy of said royalty? They hated him passionately. Is it a mystery why both Bush presidents have sent soldiers to die to fight him? Oh, "WMDs." Right.

I am probably not going to even give you a response after this one because it just makes me so seethingly angry that "intelligent" people such as yourself fall for this shit this hook line and sinker that I get a headache.
Aww gravvy you're getting so grown up, getting all educated at college.

No wait, you sound like one of those shit-spewing hippies.
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Posted 2007-01-09, 09:27 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Aww gravvy you're getting so grown up,..."
The hippies are gone. He's just a young, educated individual that is smart enough to not believe everything our government tells us. Don't trust our government. Politics is nothing but lies.
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Posted 2007-01-09, 12:56 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "The hippies are gone. He's just a..."
I severely disagree with Darwin's statements. Best person for the job? If you're talking about dealing drugs, perhaps, but if you're talking about running the country, then fuck that. You can't possibly say he's the best person for the job because there is no way you can know every one of the 6.howeverMany billion people there are on this planet. However, there are people who are certainly far more qualified for the job, and better for the job. Your statement seems to contradict itself. You state that you don't like Bush very much. That implies that you disagree with some of his decisions in running the country. Then you say he's the best man for the job, which implies that you don't disagree with most of his decisions. If you think his decisions are shitty, then why is he the best man for the job, if not, why do you dislike him?

I do think most of the people who judge Kerry, though, are full of shit. They are judging him based off of very little for the most part. Wouldn't make any decisions at all? He would have been the motherfucking president, of course he would have been decisive. Jesus Christ. At the time of the last election, Bush had already fucked up. Why you think that Kerry would have done worse is beyond me. WAHH! WAHH! HE'S A PUSSY! HE'S A FLIP-FLOPPER! Those are prissy school-girl insults, and highly inappropriate when judging a candidate for presidency. They are random insults thrown around by the opposite party. The exact same thing could have been said about Bush if enough propoganda was spewed about it.

I agree with Grav...there is no war on terrorism. It's propoganda. Why? Simple. You can't wage war on an idea. You wage war on people. You can fight terrorists but you can't combat thoughts with arms. You combat thoughts with education. If you want a war on terrorism, perhaps its time to start spreading education around, rather than smart bombs.

I disagree with Grav, however, when it comes to voting on third parties. Yes, you're absolutely right, I could vote on a third party, but what good would it do? I am better off serving the country by sitting on my ass at home, not wasting my time, and not polluting the air by driving to a voting-booth because my vote would be irrelevant. If there was ever a serious third-party candidate, then maybe, however until then its frivolous. Until the system is changed, voting for a third-party or an independent is like not voting at all. America is not perfect, as much as some zealous, chauvinistic patriotic motherfuckers like to assert. The system is not perfect. It is flawed. It can, and needs to be changed. Perhaps, perhaps one can make an argument that it is the best system that exists, but that is not relevant. What matters is that their is room for improvement.

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Tell me Grav, if there is no war, why do we lose soldiers every day? Why does the death toll keep rising? There is a war.
By this criteria, you should also acknowledge the fights between the Bloods and Crips as an all-out war. But, I think even that is more of a war than what is going on in Iraq. Both the Bloods and the Crips have a defined enemy. Who is it exactly that we're fighting? The insurgents? That's just a fancy word to say whoever opposes us. We have no defined enemy. We're just killing anyone who gets in our way. The loss of troop life is a consequence.
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Posted 2007-01-12, 02:22 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I severely disagree with Darwin's..."
I was saying he was the best out of the presidential candidates, not the best in the world.

I suppose hippie Al Gore would've made a better decision?

Or flip flopper John Kerry? (Do your homework, he changed his mind on many subjects.)

If I have more time this weekend, I will respond to your entire post.
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Posted 2007-01-12, 02:39 PM in reply to Dar_Win's post starting "I was saying he was the best out of the..."
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I suppose hippie Al Gore would've made a better decision?

Or flip flopper John Kerry? (Do your homework, he changed his mind on many subjects.)
Absolutely. George Bush had run this country into the ground before the 2004 election. Practically anyone would have been a better candidate.

I don't doubt John Kerry changed his mind on matters. What would terrify me is if he failed to do so in the face of new evidence.
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Posted 2007-01-12, 03:40 PM in reply to Dar_Win's post starting "I was saying he was the best out of the..."
Dar_Win said:
I suppose hippie Al Gore would've made a better decision?

Or flip flopper John Kerry? (Do your homework, he changed his mind on many subjects.)
Al Gore would have been a fantastic president. He's smart, he has charisma, and how he lost to such a doofus like George Bush is still beyond my comprehension.

Yes, John Kerry would have been a better president than George Bush. So what if he flip-flopped in the past, it would have been to make the right decision. Not like George Bush... even if his ideas and actions are completely horrible, he won't go for the better solution. He's a bumbling idiot, who is failing to look at the wider picture.

Imagine how different The United States would have been if Al Gore would have been elected president in 2000. I am certain that America wouldn't have turned out to be such the divided nation that it is, and it wouldn't be in such deep trouble with Iraq, the deficit, and so many other issues.
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Posted 2007-01-13, 03:29 PM in reply to Jamesadin's post starting "Al Gore would have been a fantastic..."
Seriously...would your life really change at ALL if al gore was pres or kerry?
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Posted 2007-01-13, 03:36 PM in reply to Slyvr's post starting "Seriously...would your life really..."
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Seriously...would your life really change at ALL if al gore was pres or kerry?
I wouldn't have family overseas for a frivolous cause, so absolutely.
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