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Posted 2007-09-29, 12:02 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "I've never really trusted the media..."
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I've never really trusted the media being completely seperate from the government, as you'd not find a better tool to manipulate public opinion. Perhaps I'm a little more paranoid than others, but I certainly don't take our government at face value.

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Yeah, I hear that. I'm not saying that I don't believe what's going on over there, but I don't think we're being told everything that we need to know.

I really hate that we've created a new haven for terrorists, but it's past the point of no return. The only way we'd be able to finish this any time soon is if the iraqi people get off their asses as a majority and turn in these extremists. However, if you were and Iraqi would you? Between Blackwater and stray bombs, I'm sure there's a certain amount of animocity towards the Americans. Besides that there's an extremist element lurking in every city ready to strike down American supporters whenever possible to hurt anyone who would help us.

How do we solve this? I can't say I personally believe there's a way to solve this currently. This is something only the Iraqis can do unless we're to send millions of americans over and occupy there for many years. Can we do that? No. Our dollar grows weaker every year and our country grows weaker relative to the world as a whole. We need devote more of our resources domesticly so we can compete economically with the new powers in the future. Our dominance is in mortal peril.
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Posted 2007-09-29, 12:26 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "I really hate that we've created a new..."
I wouldn't say MORTAL peril, but we certainly are slipping. I'm sure our general attitude the past few decades isn't going to be of much help if someone like China decides they've had enough of us.

Iraq isn't very cut-and-dry, as we could be called negligent if we went in, overthrew the government, then said "oops lol", but I don't think our going in and making it into a fascimile of America would be a very good option either. I'd rather we kept things stable enough for a few to get their government going and then wish them luck.
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Posted 2007-09-29, 11:05 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "I wouldn't say MORTAL peril, but we..."
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I wouldn't say MORTAL peril, but we certainly are slipping. I'm sure our general attitude the past few decades isn't going to be of much help if someone like China decides they've had enough of us.

Iraq isn't very cut-and-dry, as we could be called negligent if we went in, overthrew the government, then said "oops lol", but I don't think our going in and making it into a fascimile of America would be a very good option either. I'd rather we kept things stable enough for a few to get their government going and then wish them luck.
Our currency is going down the shitter quick, fast, and in a hurry. A lot of our jobs are based in handling other peoples' money. I'm no expert but I'd think if our own currency goes in the shitter then that may have some repercussions there.
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Posted 2007-10-01, 04:39 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "Our currency is going down the shitter..."
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Our currency is going down the shitter quick, fast, and in a hurry. A lot of our jobs are based in handling other peoples' money. I'm no expert but I'd think if our own currency goes in the shitter then that may have some repercussions there.
Me either, but when I hear Mortal Peril, I hear that everyone involved would be aware and freaking out about it. I suppose that would be a bit unrealistic of me to expect that kind of attitude from most people in the country.
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