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View Poll Results: Unified Race, Good or Bad
I feel a Unified race would be a great thing for our Existance 4 22.22%
A Unified race isn't necessairily a good thing, we lose our Culture 10 55.56%
I'm a moron, I don't care, I can't let my mind expand outside of my cubicle/bedroom, I don't know 4 22.22%
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Posted 2007-10-15, 05:18 PM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "Right. I wasn't saying you could...."
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Right. I wasn't saying you could. Although instead of forcing people into it he was just killing them. Thereby leaving (in his mind) a utopia. Correct?
He was essentially utilizing the same plan(s) brought up by !K_A! earlier, by making dissidents/undesirables disappear.

A forced utopia (essentially a retermed conquered populace) will always have resistance that will need to be neutralized. Even if done quietly, the populace will be cowed rather than happy and productive, making it a decided non-utopian existence.
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Posted 2007-10-15, 05:44 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "He was essentially utilizing the same..."
Communes could be a possibility. But that's an entirely different discussion.
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Posted 2007-10-15, 05:51 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "Communes could be a possibility. But..."
A commune by common definition is not a forced utopia...

That's like saying a Democracy isn't a totalitarian government, it's a "no shit".

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com·mune–noun
1. a small group of persons living together, sharing possessions, work, income, etc., and often pursuing unconventional lifestyles.
2. a close-knit community of people who share common interests.
3. the smallest administrative division in France, Italy, Switzerland, etc., governed by a mayor assisted by a municipal council.
4. a similar division in some other country.
5. any community organized for the protection and promotion of local interests, and subordinate to the state.
6. the government or citizens of a commune.
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Posted 2007-10-15, 05:54 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "A commune by common definition is not a..."
Almost sounds like this cult I read about. Thanks for the definition though.
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Posted 2007-10-15, 06:06 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "Almost sounds like this cult I read..."
Religion is a mental (or spiritual if you believe that way) utopia, but it only works for believers. A nonbeliever in that type of environment would certainly not have a blissful time, that's for sure.
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Posted 2008-04-15, 09:26 AM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "Religion is a mental (or spiritual if..."
This point can almost tie into the religion thread, damn very interesting.














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Posted 2008-04-26, 10:56 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "This point can almost tie into the..."
Utopia doesn't exist. It's impossible.

The world is large enough that even if we were all interbred according to a very detailed regimen in order to evenly mix and distribute the genepool, there would STILL be a variance of cultures, and in time, "races". After all, race isn't just skin color.

I can't imagine anything or anyone derived from human-kind in the near future capable of forcing a homogeneous culture upon the whole population, either.

Maybe when the singularity comes along though Or the aliens.
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