Giants win Superbowl XLII

I'm not writing it off it's just pretty obvious (to me at least, I'm not jaded behind illusions that the Jaguars are the best team ever) that Eli/Tyree's play > Garrard's play. Who cares if it was good, it does not stack up with that highlight.

Even though its going to sound biased since it is my team, but Eli/ Tyree's play was way better than Garrard's. ESPN has even declared it the best moment in all of Superbowl History! Garrard's run was equally impressive, but under the circumstances, Eli and co win.

For everyone that counted the Giants out after week 2, it just goes to show that anyone in the NFL can win.

Now, i have been supportive of all decisions the Giants have done over the years, include the acquisition of Eli. He may not be the superstar that Peyton is, but he has all the tools to be a very decent QB in this leauge, especially if he plays like he did through the playoffs (which is mistake free football and good management of the game). The Giants as a whole should have been MVP, but hey the QB will get the praise and blame.

P.S.- Spags is staying in New York which is huge for the Giants. Also, i am very excited for next season already.

All of you STFU, it was a great play, now STFU and DIAF.

In professional American football, the Super Bowl is the championship game of the National Football League (NFL).

All of you STFU, it was a great play, now STFU and DIAF.

Shh shhh we're talking football here. Move along.

Yeah, K_A. Let the retards have their fun in peace.

There was a Superbowl?

Yeah, K_A. Let the retards have their fun in peace.

Yes yes because most males actually like football. Way not to conform. You're so unique and original, Grav. You da coolest!!!

There's no issue with liking sports, especially if you play them. However, if you don't play, and you're a consumer culture zealot -- then you're a retard.

I generally draw the line on the second part when someone uses "we" and "our" to describe a team's actions.

I do play sports. I play basketball all the time, like yesterday. I'm such a badass I was double-teamed in a fucking pickup game. Who does that..

I generally draw the line on the second part when someone uses "we" and "our" to describe a team's actions.

That's pretty much my thoughts. Unless you work for your favorite team, or you're on your favorite team, you're not part of "we."

I've seen a lot of you fags saying stuff like "we traded X" or "we're doing good this season." Well, wake the fuck up and realize you're not part of the team, fag.

Man, fuck, I hated when we traded Cuttino and Francis for fucking McGrady. He didn't help us out one bit. We would have done way better with Francis, McGrady and Yao.

I don't like team sports in the first place, but let them say "We" or "Us" if they want - even if it is only to let them believe they do anything more than stare at a television. There isn't any harm done except that done to themselves.

The "harm" is far more insidious. America has an unhealthy sports obsession.


Sports are talked about constantly. Some people discuss nothing else. They would be better off reading a book. Sports also serve as a dangerous distraction for more pressing issues in the news.

Parents raise their kids from an early age to play sports, sometimes running these kids into the ground. There is a huge pressure for these kids to perform as their parents selfishly attempt to live vicariously through them.

Athletes (like celebrities) can unfairly get an advantage in the legal system because our country idolizes them. Here's an example of something disturbing to me: when Mark McGwire was questioned by Congress about steroid use, Congress basically treated him better than they would have treated the President 200 years ago.

College (and high school) athletes get numerous advantages over their peers. They are recruited for elite colleges, get athletic scholarships, stipends, and more. Some professors and proctors look the other way when athletes don't go to class at all, or blatantly cheat on tests. On my campus, one day there was absolutely nothing good to eat at the dining hall. There were steaks, but we weren't allowed to have any. "Those are for the football team."

Local and state governments pay for the construction of giant sports arenas.

There is a HUGE consumer culture behind sports, as if we weren't suckered into capitalism enough as it is. Jerseys, books, video games, toys, applicances, food, autographs, and anything else you can think of.

Athletes are generally looked up to by children, and they are not proving to be good role models. Of course there are a few good hearted athletes, but the good apples do not outweigh the bad. It also happens to be the bad ones that are shown the most in the media.


So, to summarize, being a sports apologist is a cowardly cop-out.

So?

That's all unwell and bad, but our culture, hell, our species, has been idolizing sports players as far back as Greece and Rome, and probably even farther back than then.

It's an aspect of society I wish wasn't there, as it provides an excuse for the unintelligent to reign dominant over those quite frankly more deserving of fame than them, ie people who use their brains.

A lot of people will argue that my view is unfair, but I really don't see why anyone would exalt someone to such extremes because they can run faster or jump higher than someone else. That shit doesn't matter.

To play a sport is good for your body and mind and all, but it's pro sports that really fuck up the point of it. These players make millions off of playing a fucking game.

I digress though, what I intended to say was that the human race is geared towards deifying the physically fit, and if people find it as a way to make money or find pleasure in forcing their children to live lives they didn't, oh well. It's like arguing against peeing.

"Goddamn, all these people making money off of toilet paper."

People will do it.

So? That's all unwell and bad, but our culture, hell, our species, has been idolizing sports players as far back as Greece and Rome, and probably even farther back than then. It's an aspect of society I wish wasn't there, as it provides an excuse for the unintelligent to reign dominant over those quite frankly more deserving of fame than them, ie people who use their brains. ... I digress though, what I intended to say was that the human race is geared towards deifying the physically fit

This directly contradicts your "humans can transcend their instincts" argument.

It doesn't seem like you're even disagreeing with me, so I don't see your point.

I'm a very confused individual when it comes to beliefs. I change them daily. Didn't I concede to MJ in that argument, anyway?

And I'm not disagreeing with your views, merely stating there's no use in trying to argue against sports in modern society. That was... My point.

The "harm" is far more insidious. America has an unhealthy sports obsession. Sports are talked about constantly. Some people discuss nothing else. They would be better off reading a book. Sports also serve as a dangerous distraction for more pressing issues in the news. Parents raise their kids from an early age to play sports, sometimes running these kids into the ground. There is a huge pressure for these kids to perform as their parents selfishly attempt to live vicariously through them. Athletes (like celebrities) can unfairly get an advantage in the legal system because our country idolizes them. Here's an example of something disturbing to me: when Mark McGwire was questioned by Congress about steroid use, Congress basically treated him better than they would have treated the President 200 years ago. College (and high school) athletes get numerous advantages over their peers. They are recruited for elite colleges, get athletic scholarships, stipends, and more. Some professors and proctors look the other way when athletes don't go to class at all, or blatantly cheat on tests. On my campus, one day there was absolutely nothing good to eat at the dining hall. There were steaks, but we weren't allowed to have any. "Those are for the football team." Local and state governments pay for the construction of giant sports arenas. There is a HUGE consumer culture behind sports, as if we weren't suckered into capitalism enough as it is. Jerseys, books, video games, toys, applicances, food, autographs, and anything else you can think of. Athletes are generally looked up to by children, and they are not proving to be good role models. Of course there are a few good hearted athletes, but the good apples do not outweigh the bad. It also happens to be the bad ones that are shown the most in the media. So, to summarize, being a sports apologist is a cowardly cop-out.

Says the fat kid.

Oh, and:

Says the fat kid.

Match.

Hillarious.

The "harm" is far more insidious. America has an unhealthy sports obsession.

Unhealthy? You are not one to be telling another about being unhealthy.

Sports are talked about constantly. Some people discuss nothing else. They would be better off reading a book. Sports also serve as a dangerous distraction for more pressing issues in the news.

Sports are a very healthy outlet of news, just because it's not depressing talking about all eras of the wars being waged around the world, how corrupt governments are being, gas prices being horrible, it's a nice change of thing. So WOULDN'T that be healthier than stressing yourself over a source of news that is only depressing to you? ..

Parents raise their kids from an early age to play sports, sometimes running these kids into the ground. There is a huge pressure for these kids to perform as their parents selfishly attempt to live vicariously through them.

Kids playing sports from a young age is awesome, it teaches them teamwork, how to win, how to get beat and keep coming back. Who gives a fuck if parents strive for their kin to do well, I'd do the same thing if I had a kid, now there are some fanatical nutjobs out there that do drive their kids too hard, but then again a lot of kids that are pushed to this extent turn out to be get scholar athletes, I don't see anything bad coming from that other than you sitting in math class wishing how much cooler you would've been if you had just gotten off the computer for a while and went outside and played some baseball.

Athletes (like celebrities) can unfairly get an advantage in the legal system because our country idolizes them. Here's an example of something disturbing to me: when Mark McGwire was questioned by Congress about steroid use, Congress basically treated him better than they would have treated the President 200 years ago.

I'm pretty sure Mark McGwire was issued a perscription for anabolic steroids, which makes them legal. You aren't even making a point, douchecanoe, good way of straying away from society, just keep acting more and more like a moron.

College (and high school) athletes get numerous advantages over their peers. They are recruited for elite colleges, get athletic scholarships, stipends, and more. Some professors and proctors look the other way when athletes don't go to class at all, or blatantly cheat on tests. On my campus, one day there was absolutely nothing good to eat at the dining hall. There were steaks, but we weren't allowed to have any. "Those are for the football team."

Another cry for attention? If you'd "read some more books" you'd realize how much money schools make off of sports. When our high school went to state, we got extra fundage for a new computer lab and many, many new books.

Local and state governments pay for the construction of giant sports arenas.

Some stadiums do. You can't blatently just make shit up, even the cities that do pay for them all signed off and agreed to have it built, moron. I don't mind paying an extra 3 dollars a year for the stadium here in Jacksonville as being filtered through my taxes, it's worth it to have the Jaguars here. Who honestly gives a fuck? That money is even made back through the state through commercials as they are broadcast etc etc, vendors get a stake in, businesses boom around the stadium. You're just being an ignorant moron just spouting shit off that is IRRELEVANT.

There is a HUGE consumer culture behind sports, as if we weren't suckered into capitalism enough as it is. Jerseys, books, video games, toys, applicances, food, autographs, and anything else you can think of.

suckered into capitalism? Isn't that the basis of our country? Coming from the guy that spouts the glory of Communism, I doubt anybody even takes you seriously. Who gives a fuck if they make money off of sports? that's an entirely different argument, if you don't like it. DON'T BUY IT. Just because you have SUCH a shitty life that you can't enjoy anything or even have a like for anything, to the point where you have to find something negative, about everything, you need to realize that you sound like a complete jackass, your ignorance is amazing.

Athletes are generally looked up to by children, and they are not proving to be good role models. Of course there are a few good hearted athletes, but the good apples do not outweigh the bad. It also happens to be the bad ones that are shown the most in the media. So, to summarize, being a sports apologist is a cowardly cop-out.

There are all sorts of things wrong with society. It's our nature to have differences within our communities, people etc. Why do you care so much about media being a non-conformist you should just be in your basement playing D&D not giving a shit about society, not being a communist posterchild.

You just need to realize that Sports are a good thing for this country. It's a huge revenue for the country, learn some economics, we get an ample amount of money for hosting events here, the NFL makes a giant amount of money off of events that are held here, shit Baseball is america's past time, we have people coming from other countries on scholarships to live the American dream. Just get over yourself, go get a gym membership or something. Jesus Christ you're the most bitter person I could ever imagine, fucking nerd.